Sunday, December 5, 2010

[Avid-L2] Re: OT: AMC theater's new scam

 

Bingo, same theater. And 4 bucks per ticket means 16 bucks when I take the family.

There is an actual formula for screen size to viewing distance. Just making screens bigger doesn't enhance the experience. If you want that inability to take it all in, then sit in the front row at the Cineramadome.

This blatant theft really peeves me. The letter to the CEO is already in the mail.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Benjamin Hershleder <Ben@...> wrote:
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>
>
>
> I got this surprise a while ago too Terry (at the AMC 16 in Burbank) and it was for the big-screen, enhanced-sound worthy, film epic "Get Him to the Greek"!
> It made no sense that that movie was shown in that space.
> Cheers,
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> On Dec 5, 2010, at 11:39 AM, Terence Curren wrote:
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> > Took the family to AMC to see a movie yesterday and was introduced to the AMC theater chain's new money grabbing scheme. They have what they call the "Enhanced Theater Experience" which actually means they are charging you 4 dollars more per ticket. What do you get for that? According to their press release:
> >
> > "ETX includes a 20-percent larger screen, 3D technology, digital projection and an upgraded sound system. "
> >
> > Okay, this movie was not in 3D, and a bigger screen should mean you sit farther away, but these are existing cracker box theaters so that isn't going to happen. And the "upgraded sound system" is twice as many speakers with higher wattage. In other words, either their sound systems were already sub par, or they will now make sure you leave the theater deaf.
> >
> > This blatant rip-off is just another reason that they are going to kill themselves by ensuring folks stay home to watch movies.
> >
> > And yes, I refused to pay the extortion fee and went to another theater chain to see the movie.
> >
> > Terence Curren
> > Burbank, CA
> >
> > www.alphadogs.tv
> > www.digitalservicestation.com
> >
> > www.editorslounge.com
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Posted by Video Geek Squad at 1:16 PM 0 comments

Re: [Avid-L2] OT: AMC theater's new scam

I got this surprise a while ago too Terry (at the AMC 16 in Burbank) and it was for the big-screen, enhanced-sound worthy, film epic "Get Him to the Greek"!
It made no sense that that movie was shown in that space.
Cheers,

B


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On Dec 5, 2010, at 11:39 AM, Terence Curren wrote:

> Took the family to AMC to see a movie yesterday and was introduced to the AMC theater chain's new money grabbing scheme. They have what they call the "Enhanced Theater Experience" which actually means they are charging you 4 dollars more per ticket. What do you get for that? According to their press release:
>
> "ETX includes a 20-percent larger screen, 3D technology, digital projection and an upgraded sound system. "
>
> Okay, this movie was not in 3D, and a bigger screen should mean you sit farther away, but these are existing cracker box theaters so that isn't going to happen. And the "upgraded sound system" is twice as many speakers with higher wattage. In other words, either their sound systems were already sub par, or they will now make sure you leave the theater deaf.
>
> This blatant rip-off is just another reason that they are going to kill themselves by ensuring folks stay home to watch movies.
>
> And yes, I refused to pay the extortion fee and went to another theater chain to see the movie.
>
> Terence Curren
> Burbank, CA
>
> www.alphadogs.tv
> www.digitalservicestation.com
>
> www.editorslounge.com
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Posted by Video Geek Squad at 1:10 PM 0 comments

[Avid-L2] Re: OT: AMC theater's new scam

 

Yes, but that's part of the 3D scam that you sign up for when you go to one of those films. This is just for regular movie watching.

It's basically them saying "We've been providing a poor theater viewing experience for all these years, and now we are going to provide proper one and you have to pay 4 bucks more to use it."

It would be like an editor saying, "try my new IEE (Improved Editing Experience) which provides actual caring about the project, true concern over where to place an edit, and even knowledge of the editing system interface! All this for a mere 1/3rd more on the pay rate.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Susan Perla <sueperla@...> wrote:
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> Hey Terry;
> You forgot to mention theatre charging extra for 3d movie theatre glasses
> which they ask you to "recycle" at the end of the show in bins by theatre
> exits...
> susan
>
>
>
>
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> ________________________________
> From: Terence Curren <tcurren@...>
> To: FinalCutPro-L@yahoogroups.com; Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sun, December 5, 2010 11:39:11 AM
> Subject: [Avid-L2] OT: AMC theater's new scam
>
>
> Took the family to AMC to see a movie yesterday and was introduced to the AMC
> theater chain's new money grabbing scheme. They have what they call the
> "Enhanced Theater Experience" which actually means they are charging you 4
> dollars more per ticket. What do you get for that? According to their press
> release:
>
> "ETX includes a 20-percent larger screen, 3D technology, digital projection and
> an upgraded sound system. "
>
> Okay, this movie was not in 3D, and a bigger screen should mean you sit farther
> away, but these are existing cracker box theaters so that isn't going to happen.
> And the "upgraded sound system" is twice as many speakers with higher wattage.
> In other words, either their sound systems were already sub par, or they will
> now make sure you leave the theater deaf.
>
> This blatant rip-off is just another reason that they are going to kill
> themselves by ensuring folks stay home to watch movies.
>
> And yes, I refused to pay the extortion fee and went to another theater chain to
> see the movie.
>
> Terence Curren
> Burbank, CA
>
> www.alphadogs.tv
> www.digitalservicestation.com
>
> www.editorslounge.com
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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>
>
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Re: [Avid-L2] Looking For Recommendations for Web Video Technology (OT)

 

What kind of quality are you looking for? If you're going HD, I'm
assuming you want a nicely lighted talking head, and not a home movie.

B&H sells a very nice basic lighting kit - I believe it's the
DVProducer, for about $1100-$1500 depending on what you get, but by the
time you put a camera, and a decent microphone on here, you're going to
be int he $4-$5k range minimum. A little high for the do-it-yourselver.

PC vs Mac is meaningless now days. Mac's can read AVI's, and PC's can
read Quicktime, and if you go with something like Panasonic's AVCHD, or
Sony's XD Cam, they're platform independent. Plug the camera into the
computer - whatever computer - and download. If you're not editing, it
doesn't even need to be a good computer, almost anything with USB will
do. What in the world would the Ipad be for? Unless he already has
one or wants an excuse to buy one, why spend that money. Put a 17"
computer monitor under the lens on chair, and if you're far enough back
there's your prompter. That can definitely run off of whatever old
computer is laying around.

I have a client for whom I do this on a regular basis. We shoot an old
Sony 570, take it live via firewire into Adobe Premier on a 5 yr old
Macbook, although a Dell has worked too, (Sorry Avid, it's easier and
cheaper) then export a Quicktime for upload and editing. Client
downloads the Quicktime and edits the next day. Now, it's not HD, and
it's only 2-3 minutes, but the theory should be the same.

You're going to drop a fair chunk of change to get this set up correctly
with a camera, prompter, etc. Why not get a local freelancer to shoot
it? You'd get a better product, from someone who actually knows how to
shoot, and you don't have to make the equipment purchase.

Mark "Expert on cheap video" Myers

On 12/5/10 2:12 PM, Rob C. wrote:
>
> I have a client who is looking to do weekly 6-10 minute videos for his
> business (in an office or home office location) and I'm trying to find
> the most efficient way of trying to accomplish this.
>
> The first issue I have is he is doing this in New York and I am not,
> so the ability to drag, drop and upload the videos to me is very
> important,
> The second is, he's not exactly the most tech-savvy, but he is
> trainable and willing to commit.
> The third is what I do is totally Mac based and he uses a PC -
> although he needs to upgrade and is willing to consider something like
> an Intel G5 iMac.
>
> Here are is a list of hardware or components I believe we need:
>
> - HD Camera (with media to be edited in Avid Media Composer 5 or Final
> Cut Studio)
> - Lav mic
> - Small Tele-prompter
> - Computer for the above for prompter and video recording/uploading to
> the web
>
> - And possibly basic lighting to compensate for bad office lighting or
> being backlit by office/skyline window backlight.
>
> I'm looking at everything from an iMac G5 with iSight technology and
> an external mic (which I think would be slightly problematic because
> of things like tele-prompter placement, etc); to a basic HD camera
> from Canon or Panasonic (with drag and drop media for uploading to the
> internet), an external prompter and lav mic; to possibly having a set
> up with an iPad and appropriate technology for video, audio and
> prompter.
>
> There are many ways to go but reasonably priced and easy to use, good
> looking/sounding video & audio technology with drag & drop media; as
> well as an easy to use tele- prompter is what I'm looking for.
>
> Any thoughtful recommendations would be appreciated.
>
> - rob c
>
> Chanterhaus Studios ~ Nashville
> Multimedia & Creative Services
> Contact: 615.400.6272
> Online Demo Reel: http://web.mac.com/chanterhaus.studio
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Posted by Video Geek Squad at 12:31 PM 0 comments

Re: [Avid-L2] OT: AMC theater's new scam

 

Hey Terry;
You forgot to mention theatre charging extra for 3d movie theatre glasses
which they ask you to "recycle" at the end of the show in bins by theatre
exits...
susan


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Sent: Sun, December 5, 2010 11:39:11 AM
Subject: [Avid-L2] OT: AMC theater's new scam

Took the family to AMC to see a movie yesterday and was introduced to the AMC
theater chain's new money grabbing scheme. They have what they call the
"Enhanced Theater Experience" which actually means they are charging you 4
dollars more per ticket. What do you get for that? According to their press
release:

"ETX includes a 20-percent larger screen, 3D technology, digital projection and
an upgraded sound system. "

Okay, this movie was not in 3D, and a bigger screen should mean you sit farther
away, but these are existing cracker box theaters so that isn't going to happen.
And the "upgraded sound system" is twice as many speakers with higher wattage.
In other words, either their sound systems were already sub par, or they will
now make sure you leave the theater deaf.

This blatant rip-off is just another reason that they are going to kill
themselves by ensuring folks stay home to watch movies.

And yes, I refused to pay the extortion fee and went to another theater chain to
see the movie.

Terence Curren
Burbank, CA

www.alphadogs.tv
www.digitalservicestation.com

www.editorslounge.com

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Re: [Avid-L2] OT: AMC theater's new scam

 

On Dec 5, 2010, at 11:39 AM, Terence Curren wrote:

> And yes, I refused to pay the extortion fee and went to another theater chain to see the movie.

Dad is so much fun!

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Posted by Video Geek Squad at 11:49 AM 0 comments

[Avid-L2] OT: AMC theater's new scam

 

Took the family to AMC to see a movie yesterday and was introduced to the AMC theater chain's new money grabbing scheme. They have what they call the "Enhanced Theater Experience" which actually means they are charging you 4 dollars more per ticket. What do you get for that? According to their press release:

"ETX includes a 20-percent larger screen, 3D technology, digital projection and an upgraded sound system. "

Okay, this movie was not in 3D, and a bigger screen should mean you sit farther away, but these are existing cracker box theaters so that isn't going to happen. And the "upgraded sound system" is twice as many speakers with higher wattage. In other words, either their sound systems were already sub par, or they will now make sure you leave the theater deaf.

This blatant rip-off is just another reason that they are going to kill themselves by ensuring folks stay home to watch movies.

And yes, I refused to pay the extortion fee and went to another theater chain to see the movie.

Terence Curren
Burbank, CA

www.alphadogs.tv
www.digitalservicestation.com

www.editorslounge.com

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Posted by Video Geek Squad at 11:39 AM 0 comments

[Avid-L2] Looking For Recommendations for Web Video Technology (OT)

 

I have a client who is looking to do weekly 6-10 minute videos for his
business (in an office or home office location) and I'm trying to find
the most efficient way of trying to accomplish this.

The first issue I have is he is doing this in New York and I am not,
so the ability to drag, drop and upload the videos to me is very
important,
The second is, he's not exactly the most tech-savvy, but he is
trainable and willing to commit.
The third is what I do is totally Mac based and he uses a PC -
although he needs to upgrade and is willing to consider something like
an Intel G5 iMac.

Here are is a list of hardware or components I believe we need:

- HD Camera (with media to be edited in Avid Media Composer 5 or Final
Cut Studio)
- Lav mic
- Small Tele-prompter
- Computer for the above for prompter and video recording/uploading to
the web

- And possibly basic lighting to compensate for bad office lighting or
being backlit by office/skyline window backlight.

I'm looking at everything from an iMac G5 with iSight technology and
an external mic (which I think would be slightly problematic because
of things like tele-prompter placement, etc); to a basic HD camera
from Canon or Panasonic (with drag and drop media for uploading to the
internet), an external prompter and lav mic; to possibly having a set
up with an iPad and appropriate technology for video, audio and
prompter.

There are many ways to go but reasonably priced and easy to use, good
looking/sounding video & audio technology with drag & drop media; as
well as an easy to use tele- prompter is what I'm looking for.

Any thoughtful recommendations would be appreciated.

- rob c

Chanterhaus Studios ~ Nashville
Multimedia & Creative Services
Contact: 615.400.6272
Online Demo Reel: http://web.mac.com/chanterhaus.studio

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[Avid-L2] Re: shooting HD for a SD deliverable & facility cost

 

Yes, general responsiveness.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Roger Shufflebottom <rogshuff@...> wrote:
>
> Terry was talking about general responsiveness I think. The power of 30 Intel hamsters on a wheel and all that.
>
> On 5 Dec 2010, at 10:28, Pat wrote:
>
> > Delays with Adrenaline hardware. Never experienced that in all the years of providing them in facilities and training?
> > Sure if working DV and using generic DV to composite converters you can get a 4 frame delay and have to mess around with desktop delay to compensate but the Adrenaline BOB works much as the Mojo DX does.
> >
> > For SD delivery you will need to get from HD to SD at some point and that process can generate unwanted artifacts that have to be dealt with.
> > My preference is to convert at ingest if you can manage the time hit. Then you are working at the final quality. Any shots that need drastic DVE or suffer image artifacts you can confirm back to HD and re- downconvett with more control.
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@> wrote:
> > >
> > > If you are going tapeless, do yourself a HUGE favor and skip Adrenaline altogether. It adds a delay that will drive you nuts. If you need external monitoring, tell them you want MojoDX or MXO.
> > >
> > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Paul Dougherty <lists@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >--- In <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > >Paul Dougherty <lists@> wrote:
> > > > ><< The sales/scheduling person seemed to think that SD Adrenaline
> > > > >effectively downconverts during ingest, that's no good.>>
> > > > >
> > > > >Well, the Adrenaline doesn't "down-convert". You would take the
> > > > >down-converted SD out of the deck and capture it SD.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, makes sense just passing along what sales/sched said. Anyway
> > > > we're doing a tapless ingest
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
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> With best wishes.
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>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: shooting HD for a SD deliverable & facility cost

Terry was talking about general responsiveness I think. The power of 30 Intel hamsters on a wheel and all that.

On 5 Dec 2010, at 10:28, Pat wrote:

> Delays with Adrenaline hardware. Never experienced that in all the years of providing them in facilities and training?
> Sure if working DV and using generic DV to composite converters you can get a 4 frame delay and have to mess around with desktop delay to compensate but the Adrenaline BOB works much as the Mojo DX does.
>
> For SD delivery you will need to get from HD to SD at some point and that process can generate unwanted artifacts that have to be dealt with.
> My preference is to convert at ingest if you can manage the time hit. Then you are working at the final quality. Any shots that need drastic DVE or suffer image artifacts you can confirm back to HD and re- downconvett with more control.
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@...> wrote:
> >
> > If you are going tapeless, do yourself a HUGE favor and skip Adrenaline altogether. It adds a delay that will drive you nuts. If you need external monitoring, tell them you want MojoDX or MXO.
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Paul Dougherty <lists@> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--- In <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com,
> > > >Paul Dougherty <lists@> wrote:
> > > ><< The sales/scheduling person seemed to think that SD Adrenaline
> > > >effectively downconverts during ingest, that's no good.>>
> > > >
> > > >Well, the Adrenaline doesn't "down-convert". You would take the
> > > >down-converted SD out of the deck and capture it SD.
> > >
> > > Thanks, makes sense just passing along what sales/sched said. Anyway
> > > we're doing a tapless ingest
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>
>

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[Avid-L2] Re: EDL Manager Won't Open

 



> Roger Shufflebottom wrote:
> I recall that at some point, Avid said to install
> EDL Manager before installing the editing application.
> Not sure if that still holds.

You are correct, but I don't think that's true any longer. The issue is that now the "helper" apps are an optional/custom installation choice in the MC installer. This implies that you can run an older version of these apps along with a newer version of MC. That may be where the problem lies.

With the current installer, if you select the custom install and pick the desired helper apps, it all installs at one time and there doesn't seem to be an issue. So as John said, uninstall it all, then follow a custom install from the patch. This is a full installation in the Mac versions.

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Posted by Video Geek Squad at 9:24 AM 0 comments

[Avid-L2] Re: shooting HD for a SD deliverable & facility cost

 

Delays with Adrenaline hardware. Never experienced that in all the years of providing them in facilities and training?
Sure if working DV and using generic DV to composite converters you can get a 4 frame delay and have to mess around with desktop delay to compensate but the Adrenaline BOB works much as the Mojo DX does.

For SD delivery you will need to get from HD to SD at some point and that process can generate unwanted artifacts that have to be dealt with.
My preference is to convert at ingest if you can manage the time hit. Then you are working at the final quality. Any shots that need drastic DVE or suffer image artifacts you can confirm back to HD and re- downconvett with more control.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@...> wrote:
>
> If you are going tapeless, do yourself a HUGE favor and skip Adrenaline altogether. It adds a delay that will drive you nuts. If you need external monitoring, tell them you want MojoDX or MXO.
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Paul Dougherty <lists@> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >--- In <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com,
> > >Paul Dougherty <lists@> wrote:
> > ><< The sales/scheduling person seemed to think that SD Adrenaline
> > >effectively downconverts during ingest, that's no good.>>
> > >
> > >Well, the Adrenaline doesn't "down-convert". You would take the
> > >down-converted SD out of the deck and capture it SD.
> >
> > Thanks, makes sense just passing along what sales/sched said. Anyway
> > we're doing a tapless ingest
> >
> >
> > >
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Posted by Video Geek Squad at 2:28 AM 0 comments

Re: [Avid-L2] Re: EDL Manager Won't Open

I recall that at some point, Avid said to install EDL Manager before installing the editing application. Not sure if that still holds.

On 5 Dec 2010, at 02:14, oliverpetersvidy wrote:

> I concur with John's advice. Same experience on my end.
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> - Oliver
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With best wishes.
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