This IS the Avid L2: 12/1/19

Saturday, December 7, 2019

Re: [Avid-L2] AE - Script Prep Question

Steve Audette's blog article on Avid.com pretty much nails it.

http://www.avidblogs.com/scriptsync-in-six-easy-steps/
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Re: [Avid-L2] Legacy format / legacy quicktime / legacy headache

If you don't have success getting a good conversion of the file, you could always try opening the project in Avid.

I would:
a) copy the original Bins and media to a new drive (make sure that OMFI MediaFiles folder is at the root of the drive)
b) create a new project in Avid
c) copy one of the original Bins into your new Avid project folder

It should be evident almost immediately if the OMFI media is ok. If it is, locate the sequence you need and then export out a new file.

You might also consider consolidating the original media from the new project as it should create new MXF media files for you.
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Friday, December 6, 2019

[Avid-L2] Sticky mark clip in timeline

Yesterday in 2019.11 I couldn’t clear my V1 in-out (mark clip) marks (which spanned several clips) and reset new ones in the record monitor.I believe this was happening when I had 2 sequences ganged together. Clearing any marks in the source monitor didn’t help. The workaround was to click on a different track in my record monitor timeline (A1) and mark clip, then clear the marks. That would allow me to successfully mark the clip on V1 that I wanted. Anyone else having this problem?

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Thursday, December 5, 2019

[Avid-L2] Audio Waveform setting

So I recently made the switch from 2018.12 to 2019.11. I mostly like the new interface, but a few things are tripping me up. Is it possible to tie waveform settings to the timeline view? This is how I've always used it, but now it seems that the waveform settings are tied to the clip. For instance, when I use my Audio workspace, I want the waveforms turned on, but when I switch to my Effects workspace, I want them turned off. I'm linking my workspace settings to my timeline settings, but not getting the results I expect. Am I missing something? Is there a simple setting to adjust this? Thanks in advance!

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Re: [Avid-L2] VideoGuys MC subscription renewal vs support renewal?

FOLLOWUP:

I finally got this cleared up. For some reason, the code had to be sent to an alternate email address. My regular email address never worked.

It's odd because my regular email address works REALLY WELL receiving all kinds of other crap . . . . . . . ;)

On Dec 5, 2019, at 9:08 AM, Dennis Degan via Groups.Io <DennyD1=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

I just did this as well, but I'm having trouble getting a working authorization code from Videoguys. I had to call them and after talking with Barbara, she provided an email with what I thought was the authorization code, but it does not work. I'm still waiting to speak with them again this morning (they aren't open yet).
Obviously, I need this code today as my Avid MC perpetual license expires today.

Dennis Degan, Video Editor -Consultant -Knowledge Bank

On Dec 4, 2019, at 1:57 PM, David Yardley via Groups.Io <davidyardley=maccom@groups.io> wrote:

Just bought next years perpetual subscription from two days ago them for 285 US.
Probably cannot claim UK VAT but still a big saving.

Dennis Degan, Video Editor -Consultant -Knowledge Bank

Re: [Avid-L2] VideoGuys MC subscription renewal vs support renewal?

I just did this as well, but I'm having trouble getting a working authorization code from Videoguys. I had to call them and after talking with Barbara, she provided an email with what I thought was the authorization code, but it does not work. I'm still waiting to speak with them again this morning (they aren't open yet).

Obviously, I need this code today as my Avid MC perpetual license expires today.

Dennis Degan, Video Editor -Consultant -Knowledge Bank

On Dec 4, 2019, at 1:57 PM, David Yardley via Groups.Io <davidyardley=mac.com@groups.io> wrote:

Just bought next years perpetual subscription from two days ago them for 285 US.
Probably cannot claim UK VAT but still a big saving.

Wednesday, December 4, 2019

[Avid-L2] Need some Noise Canceling headphones?

Hey, just noticed the Sony WH1000XM3's are on sale for about 72 bucks off- Grab 'em while they're quiet. https://amzn.to/2PhR0ps

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[Avid-L2] AE - Script Prep Question

I haven't done this in a while and I can't remember how to solve the problem -

I have a copy of the script in .pdf, and can export it as a .rtf file to maintain the formatting, but I don't seem to be able to maintain the formatting when converting to .txt. All the margin changes for the dialog text disappear.

Can anyone clue me in to maintaining the formatting over into media composer?

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Re: [Avid-L2] VideoGuys MC subscription renewal vs support renewal?

700mv is such old money.
Get with the times its 876 in new 10 bit money.

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Re: [Avid-L2] VideoGuys MC subscription renewal vs support renewal?

I just did this too saving more than a hundred bucks for each license. I dare say this might be the first time I renew where I won't have to bother Marianna with my lack of renewal skills. Wait I think I already had subscription vs. perpetual messed up in my head and she straightened me out on that along with Wilson. This HDR stuff is rotting my brain. How can 700 mV be sooooo taxing. ;-)

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Re: [Avid-L2] VideoGuys MC subscription renewal vs support renewal?

Just bought next years perpetual subscription from two days ago them for 285 US.
Probably cannot claim UK VAT but still a big saving.

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Re: [Avid-L2] VideoGuys MC subscription renewal vs support renewal?

Well I went online and chatted with them and they told me they were authorised to only selll in the US.

Interesting, maybe something has changed? I’ve been doing multiple Support Renewals each year with Videoguys for at least 4 years from Australia, just get emailed the codes and apply them. Have always found them good to deal with and good price. If it’s true they are now limited to US sales it sounds a bit like cartel behaviour but what would I know? :-)

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Tuesday, December 3, 2019

Re: [Avid-L2] VideoGuys MC subscription renewal vs support renewal?

Well I went online and chatted with them and they told me they were authorised to only selll in the US.

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Re: [Avid-L2] VideoGuys MC subscription renewal vs support renewal?

Not true, Pat, I'm in the UK and have been buying my support renewals from Videoguys for the last few years. I just bought a new support plan through them a few weeks ago. Bought through their website, they email the code, I fill it in on Avid's website and I'm up and running again. It's literally £140 more expansive on the Avid UK website. Absolute rip offf.

Andi

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Re: [Avid-L2] VideoGuys MC subscription renewal vs support renewal?

Ping me, Pat. I will match it for you.

On 03/12/2019, 14:37, "Avid-L2@groups.io on behalf of Pat Horridge" <Avid-L2@groups.io on behalf of pat@horridge.org.uk> wrote:

Great deal but only valid in the US. The website implies you can order for the UK but you can't

Re: [Avid-L2] VideoGuys MC subscription renewal vs support renewal?

Great deal but only valid in the US. The website implies you can order for the UK but you can't

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Re: [Avid-L2] VideoGuys MC subscription renewal vs support renewal?

Videoguys has a perpetual license support renewal deal running for $299 per support plan plus 5% off. Not sure if the URL below will make it through.

https://videoguys.com/shop/allbrands/brands-ab/avid/support-plan-renewal.html?utm_campaign=2019-11-22%20Avid%20Black%20Friday%20Specials%20%28KpP4W8%29&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Videoguys%20Customers&_ke=eyJrbF9lbWFpbCI6ICJvcmRlcnNAa25vd2xlc3ZpZGVvLmNvbSIsICJrbF9jb21wYW55X2lkIjogIlBrbXJQWCJ9#tab-description

I just renewed my systems, it takes a day or two to get the renewal codes.

Karl Knowles

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Monday, December 2, 2019

Re: [Avid-L2] Working in HDR 2084 automatic SDR white point color management has no effect?

HLG and PQ are very different beasts.
But even so any auto conversion is going to be pants.
It's the video equivilant of AGC sound.
HLG has no metadata so is much simpler (a combination of gamma curve for the bottom of the exposure and log for the top. So easier to automate but there is no esthetic control.
HLG is ideal for transmission but also for general playback as no metadata needed. Just switch the TV to HLG.
The HLG file also works on SDR.

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[Avid-L2] Working in HDR 2084 automatic SDR white point color management has no effect?

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In Color Management Setting page there is "Automatic HDR conversions from SDR media (Rec709" Then there is a choice to map to 50% or 75% for HLG. Does this mean this only works for HLG which I'm told is mainly a live broadcasting format and not common in post. At least that's what I was told in my recent HDR class. I'm working in smpte 2084 and it has not effect. I don't even know how Avid would know a clip is SDR. I played around with Source Color Space in the source settings window but no effect. Perhaps there is no effect because I didn't choose an HLG color space?

This is all very confusing to me.

John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

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[Avid-L2] Working in HDR 2084 automatic SDR white point color management has no effect?

In Color Management Setting page there is "Automatic HDR conve4rsions from SDR media (Rec709" Then there is a choice to map to 50% or 75% for HLG. Does this mean this only works for HLG which I'm told is mainly a live broadcasting format and not common in post. At least that's what I was told in my recent HDR class. I'm working in smpte 2084 and it has not effect. I don't even know how Avid would know a clip is SDR. I played around with Source Color Space in the source settings window but now effect. Perhaps there is no effect because I didn't choose an HLG color space?

This is all very confusing to me.

John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

Re: [Avid-L2] VideoGuys MC subscription renewal vs support renewal?

Yes mine are all perpetuals. That makes it clearer. So the subscription ends at the end of the subscription. I've been perpetual so long I forgot the new licenses don't last if not updated and now I understand the terminology better than I did before. It's a little confusing that VideoGuys lists perpetual EDU licnenses on the same page. I assume Academic licenses work a little different and don't adhere to the same distinction between subscription and perpetual in the real world.

John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 12:32 PM, Marianna wrote:

No it is not the same. A subscription renewal is just that – renewing your subscription if you have one for another year. Correct me if I am wrong John but you have all perpetuals.

Videoguys.com has the best price for Perpetual renewals.

Marianna Montague
Sr. Director, Customer Success Management
Global Customer Solutions and Services
Avid - Remote
6301 Marbella Blvd
Apollo Beach, FL 33572
United States Of America
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From: "bigfish@pacbell.net" <bigfish@pacbell.net>
Date: Monday, December 2, 2019 at 3:22 PM
To: Avid L-2 Groups IO <avid-l2@groups.io>, Marianna Montague <marianna.montague@avid.com>
Subject: VideoGuys MC subscription renewal vs support renewal?

CAUTION: External Email.

I see VideoGuys has Avid subscription renewals for 239. The page also lists perpetual EDU licenses. What about my three perpetual licenses, two dongle and one software? My renewals have always been support renewals but is a subscription renewal the same thing? My gut says it's not given the push to get people to move to the subscription model.

I'm too use to the ease of moving the dongle and skipping deactivation on new start up drives and value that. What is the best price buy for renewing support these days? All my licenses are active.

John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

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Re: [Avid-L2] VideoGuys MC subscription renewal vs support renewal?

John,

Just to expand on Marianna's comment:

A "subscription renewal" gives you 1 year of Avid licenses, updated with the latest releases. After that 1 year your Avid stops running if you stop paying.

A "support renewal" of a perpetual license gives you 1 year in which you can update with the latest releases. After that 1 year, your Avid continues to run forever with its latest-installed release, even if you stop paying.

I'm in the same boat as you. Just FYI, I'm still running MC 7.0.4 from 2014, even though I've continued to buy support for my 5 dongles. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!"

Wilson

On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 3:33 PM Marianna <marianna.montague@avid.com> wrote:

No it is not the same. A subscription renewal is just that – renewing your subscription if you have one for another year. Correct me if I am wrong John but you have all perpetuals.

Videoguys.com has the best price for Perpetual renewals.

Marianna Montague
Sr. Director, Customer Success Management
Global Customer Solutions and Services
Avid - Remote
6301 Marbella Blvd
Apollo Beach, FL 33572
United States Of America
marianna.montague@avid.com

t +1 (978) 640-5215 | m +1 (813) 493-6800

www.avid.com

From: "bigfish@pacbell.net" <bigfish@pacbell.net>
Date: Monday, December 2, 2019 at 3:22 PM
To: Avid L-2 Groups IO <avid-l2@groups.io>, Marianna Montague <marianna.montague@avid.com>
Subject: VideoGuys MC subscription renewal vs support renewal?

CAUTION: External Email.

I see VideoGuys has Avid subscription renewals for 239. The page also lists perpetual EDU licenses. What about my three perpetual licenses, two dongle and one software? My renewals have always been support renewals but is a subscription renewal the same thing? My gut says it's not given the push to get people to move to the subscription model.

I'm too use to the ease of moving the dongle and skipping deactivation on new start up drives and value that. What is the best price buy for renewing support these days? All my licenses are active.

John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

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Re: [Avid-L2] VideoGuys MC subscription renewal vs support renewal?

No it is not the same. A subscription renewal is just that – renewing your subscription if you have one for another year. Correct me if I am wrong John but you have all perpetuals.

Videoguys.com has the best price for Perpetual renewals.

Marianna Montague
Sr. Director, Customer Success Management
Global Customer Solutions and Services
Avid - Remote
6301 Marbella Blvd
Apollo Beach, FL 33572
United States Of America
marianna.montague@avid.com

t +1 (978) 640-5215 | m +1 (813) 493-6800

www.avid.com

From: "bigfish@pacbell.net" <bigfish@pacbell.net>
Date: Monday, December 2, 2019 at 3:22 PM
To: Avid L-2 Groups IO <avid-l2@groups.io>, Marianna Montague <marianna.montague@avid.com>
Subject: VideoGuys MC subscription renewal vs support renewal?

CAUTION: External Email.

I see VideoGuys has Avid subscription renewals for 239. The page also lists perpetual EDU licenses. What about my three perpetual licenses, two dongle and one software? My renewals have always been support renewals but is a subscription renewal the same thing? My gut says it's not given the push to get people to move to the subscription model.

I'm too use to the ease of moving the dongle and skipping deactivation on new start up drives and value that. What is the best price buy for renewing support these days? All my licenses are active.

John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

[Avid-L2] VideoGuys MC subscription renewal vs support renewal?

I'm too use to the ease of moving the dongle and skipping deactivation on new start up drives and value that. What is the best price buy for renewing support these days? All my licenses are active.

John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

Re: [Avid-L2] Legacy format / legacy quicktime / legacy headache

Streamclip also supports DNxHD export, as I recall.

After Effects may be worth a try, I have sometimes

gotten it to open cranky files nothing else would touch.

May have better deinterlacing....?

Good luck!

On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 12:10 PM Tim McLaughlin <mcltim.156@gmail.com> wrote:

Update - some surprising success!

Thanks Chip for the suggestion of MPEG Streamclip (last updated in 2012).

We have one older mac in the office that is still running Sierra.
Downloaded and installed the Avid LE codecs and MPEG Streamclip.

I was able to successfully able to open the original Avid QT files and export to ProRes. Hooray.
The quality of the de-interlacing was not great tho, so I will need to do this in a couple of steps.

So now I get to see if JES Deinterlacer runs on this old box...

Thanks again Chip!

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On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 11:41 AM C. Hess <cfh3media@gmail.com> wrote:
MPEG Streamclip can do this. But that is getting pretty 'long in the tooth', depending on your machine...

On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 11:32 AM Tim McLaughlin <mcltim.156@gmail.com> wrote:
Client called up to get a new conversion of an old project - the original was mastered for DVD.

SO...

I have 480i Widescreen master files saved out from 2012 that are Avid Motion JPEG Quicktime. Which is no longer supported under Mac OS... And it seems that I no longer have a machine old enough for conversion... (ugh)

I have a legacy edit project with OMFI and Avid MediaFiles folders. Yay?

The questions are:
1. Does anyone have a third party option to turn Avid MJPEG mov files into ProRes or DNx??
2. Will the current version of Media Composer even be able to open media this old?

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Video Editor
http://vimeo.com/mcltim

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CFH3 Media
773-293-4824

Chip Hess

CFH3 Media

773-293-4824

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Re: [Avid-L2] Legacy format / legacy quicktime / legacy headache

Update - some surprising success!

Thanks Chip for the suggestion of MPEG Streamclip (last updated in 2012).

We have one older mac in the office that is still running Sierra.

Downloaded and installed the Avid LE codecs and MPEG Streamclip.

I was able to successfully able to open the original Avid QT files and export to ProRes. Hooray.

The quality of the de-interlacing was not great tho, so I will need to do this in a couple of steps.

So now I get to see if JES Deinterlacer runs on this old box...

Thanks again Chip!

Tim McLaughlin
Video Editor
http://vimeo.com/mcltim

On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 11:41 AM C. Hess <cfh3media@gmail.com> wrote:

MPEG Streamclip can do this. But that is getting pretty 'long in the tooth', depending on your machine...

On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 11:32 AM Tim McLaughlin <mcltim.156@gmail.com> wrote:
Client called up to get a new conversion of an old project - the original was mastered for DVD.

SO...

I have 480i Widescreen master files saved out from 2012 that are Avid Motion JPEG Quicktime. Which is no longer supported under Mac OS... And it seems that I no longer have a machine old enough for conversion... (ugh)

I have a legacy edit project with OMFI and Avid MediaFiles folders. Yay?

The questions are:
1. Does anyone have a third party option to turn Avid MJPEG mov files into ProRes or DNx??
2. Will the current version of Media Composer even be able to open media this old?

--
Tim McLaughlin
Video Editor
http://vimeo.com/mcltim

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Chip Hess
CFH3 Media
773-293-4824

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Re: [Avid-L2] Legacy format / legacy quicktime / legacy headache

MPEG Streamclip can do this. But that is getting pretty 'long in the tooth', depending on your machine...

On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 11:32 AM Tim McLaughlin <mcltim.156@gmail.com> wrote:

Client called up to get a new conversion of an old project - the original was mastered for DVD.

SO...

I have 480i Widescreen master files saved out from 2012 that are Avid Motion JPEG Quicktime. Which is no longer supported under Mac OS... And it seems that I no longer have a machine old enough for conversion... (ugh)

I have a legacy edit project with OMFI and Avid MediaFiles folders. Yay?

The questions are:
1. Does anyone have a third party option to turn Avid MJPEG mov files into ProRes or DNx??
2. Will the current version of Media Composer even be able to open media this old?

--
Tim McLaughlin
Video Editor
http://vimeo.com/mcltim

Chip Hess

CFH3 Media

773-293-4824

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[Avid-L2] Legacy format / legacy quicktime / legacy headache

Client called up to get a new conversion of an old project - the original was mastered for DVD.

SO...

I have 480i Widescreen master files saved out from 2012 that are Avid Motion JPEG Quicktime. Which is no longer supported under Mac OS... And it seems that I no longer have a machine old enough for conversion... (ugh)

I have a legacy edit project with OMFI and Avid MediaFiles folders. Yay?

The questions are:

1. Does anyone have a third party option to turn Avid MJPEG mov files into ProRes or DNx??

2. Will the current version of Media Composer even be able to open media this old?

Tim McLaughlin
Video Editor
http://vimeo.com/mcltim

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Sunday, December 1, 2019

[Avid-L2] Old DLT transfer question

We have some old DLT tapes created by a mid-90's Avid Media Composer 100. We would like to get the media recovered if possible. The DLT is a Fujifilm DLT IV. Any advice would be appreciated.

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Re: [Avid-L2] How to set up HDR Avid Project with Panny Varicam 35 Vlog, Vgamut material?

Boy, is that ever true.

Style over substance … I wish

they would throw some of that tech money at scripts!

On Dec 1, 2019, at 2:34 AM, Pat Horridge <pat@horridge.org.uk> wrote:

The issue is we aren't using these new developments to improve the story telling. We are just using them for the sake of it.

Chip Hess

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Re: [Avid-L2] How to set up HDR Avid Project with Panny Varicam 35 Vlog, Vgamut material?

Unless you use the nit range over 100 then your HDR won't look that different to SDR.

An HDR 800 Nit TV looks like SDR for content under 100 nits.

And yes 5.1 can be immersive but only if the content is designed to be immersive.

I have clients needing 5.1 for a head to head interview.

The issue is we aren't using these new developments to improve the story telling. We are just using them for the sake of it.

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