Re: [Avid-L2] Official Way To Submit a Support/Tech/Feature Request to Avid?

Yes. 

Contact Marianna about your account. She can assist. 

DQS

On Nov 23, 2019, at 11:24 AM, David Dodson <davidadodson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

To be clear, are you referring to the community.avid.com forums in the Avid Community section of their site?

David Dodson

davidadodson@sbcglobal.net

On Nov 23, 2019, at 8:21 AM, Gowanus Canal <gowanuscanalstinks@gmail.com> wrote:

The official Avid forum is monitored constantly by Marianna and several Avid employees. 

I always post my FR there. 

DQS

On Nov 23, 2019, at 11:13 AM, David Dodson <davaldod@gmail.com> wrote:



Is there an official site/address/procedure by which we may submit a Support, Tech, or Feature requests to Avid?

I don't mean some little problem specific to my system or set-up (like, 'Hey, my System ID doesn't work anymore…'), but more like, "Despite all parties' claims, Blackmagic BRAW remains 'Unsupported' and unable to be transcoded via AMA in Media Composer.'

How does a user make a legitimate (official) submission to Avid on a thing like this? I don't want to just throw things into the air and hope the wind carries them in the general direction of someone at Avid.

Much obliged,

D

Davaldod

davaldod@gmail.com

[Avid-L2] Yahoo Group locked down - stick a fork in it. Donations until thanksgiving.

Hi Folks-  the Yahoo group has been locked down-  it will no longer send nor receive messages.   I believe an archive will exist there of messages,  but files and photos and everything else will disapear in the great Verizon purge.   

Everything appears to be here from what I've seen-  so we'll be good going forward.   You can donate to the L2 thru Thanksgiving-   paypal or Zelle to my email address:  JeffSengpiehl@yahoo.com-  and then we'll stop for 2019-   I think next year (with a little vision) we'll be able to run it for much less-    We'll see about that as we move forward.    

I'm also trying to get an integration for posts on the Facebook group to port over as they appear to work-   we'll also see how that behaves as we go forward.

thnx

JDS

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Re: [Avid-L2] Official Way To Submit a Support/Tech/Feature Request to Avid?

That's correct. A number of users are also active in the Beta program and will pass along key topics.

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To be clear, are you referring to the community.avid.com forums in the Avid Community section of their site?

David Dodson

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On Nov 23, 2019, at 8:21 AM, Gowanus Canal <gowanuscanalstinks@gmail.com> wrote:

The official Avid forum is monitored constantly by Marianna and several Avid employees. 

I always post my FR there. 

DQS

On Nov 23, 2019, at 11:13 AM, David Dodson <davaldod@gmail.com> wrote:



Is there an official site/address/procedure by which we may submit a Support, Tech, or Feature requests to Avid?

I don't mean some little problem specific to my system or set-up (like, 'Hey, my System ID doesn't work anymore…'), but more like, "Despite all parties' claims, Blackmagic BRAW remains 'Unsupported' and unable to be transcoded via AMA in Media Composer.'

How does a user make a legitimate (official) submission to Avid on a thing like this? I don't want to just throw things into the air and hope the wind carries them in the general direction of someone at Avid.

Much obliged,

D

Davaldod

davaldod@gmail.com

Re: [Avid-L2] Official Way To Submit a Support/Tech/Feature Request to Avid?

Also, the Avid site stubbornly errors out every single time I try to link my Master Account to the Avid Community.

I love Avid with a passion unbounded, but WHY IN GOD'S NAME ARE THEIR WEB SITES AND CUSTOMER SERVICE UI's frequently so maddening to work with?!

David Dodson

davidadodson@sbcglobal.net

On Nov 23, 2019, at 8:21 AM, Gowanus Canal <gowanuscanalstinks@gmail.com> wrote:

The official Avid forum is monitored constantly by Marianna and several Avid employees. 

I always post my FR there. 

DQS

On Nov 23, 2019, at 11:13 AM, David Dodson <davaldod@gmail.com> wrote:



Is there an official site/address/procedure by which we may submit a Support, Tech, or Feature requests to Avid?

I don't mean some little problem specific to my system or set-up (like, 'Hey, my System ID doesn't work anymore…'), but more like, "Despite all parties' claims, Blackmagic BRAW remains 'Unsupported' and unable to be transcoded via AMA in Media Composer.'

How does a user make a legitimate (official) submission to Avid on a thing like this? I don't want to just throw things into the air and hope the wind carries them in the general direction of someone at Avid.

Much obliged,

D

Davaldod

davaldod@gmail.com

Re: [Avid-L2] Official Way To Submit a Support/Tech/Feature Request to Avid?

To be clear, are you referring to the community.avid.com forums in the Avid Community section of their site?

David Dodson

davidadodson@sbcglobal.net

On Nov 23, 2019, at 8:21 AM, Gowanus Canal <gowanuscanalstinks@gmail.com> wrote:

The official Avid forum is monitored constantly by Marianna and several Avid employees. 

I always post my FR there. 

DQS

On Nov 23, 2019, at 11:13 AM, David Dodson <davaldod@gmail.com> wrote:



Is there an official site/address/procedure by which we may submit a Support, Tech, or Feature requests to Avid?

I don't mean some little problem specific to my system or set-up (like, 'Hey, my System ID doesn't work anymore…'), but more like, "Despite all parties' claims, Blackmagic BRAW remains 'Unsupported' and unable to be transcoded via AMA in Media Composer.'

How does a user make a legitimate (official) submission to Avid on a thing like this? I don't want to just throw things into the air and hope the wind carries them in the general direction of someone at Avid.

Much obliged,

D

Davaldod

davaldod@gmail.com

Re: [Avid-L2] Official Way To Submit a Support/Tech/Feature Request to Avid?

The official Avid forum is monitored constantly by Marianna and several Avid employees. 

I always post my FR there. 

DQS

On Nov 23, 2019, at 11:13 AM, David Dodson <davaldod@gmail.com> wrote:



Is there an official site/address/procedure by which we may submit a Support, Tech, or Feature requests to Avid?

I don't mean some little problem specific to my system or set-up (like, 'Hey, my System ID doesn't work anymore…'), but more like, "Despite all parties' claims, Blackmagic BRAW remains 'Unsupported' and unable to be transcoded via AMA in Media Composer.'

How does a user make a legitimate (official) submission to Avid on a thing like this? I don't want to just throw things into the air and hope the wind carries them in the general direction of someone at Avid.

Much obliged,

D

Davaldod

davaldod@gmail.com

[Avid-L2] Official Way To Submit a Support/Tech/Feature Request to Avid?

Is there an official site/address/procedure by which we may submit a Support, Tech, or Feature requests to Avid?

I don't mean some little problem specific to my system or set-up (like, 'Hey, my System ID doesn't work anymore…'), but more like, "Despite all parties' claims, Blackmagic BRAW remains 'Unsupported' and unable to be transcoded via AMA in Media Composer.'

How does a user make a legitimate (official) submission to Avid on a thing like this? I don't want to just throw things into the air and hope the wind carries them in the general direction of someone at Avid.

Much obliged,

D

Davaldod

davaldod@gmail.com

[Avid-L2] Working in RGB project and switching to 12 bit output shifts black up?

I'm trying to understand more about how Avid is working when it comes to the Color Space settings.  I have always worked in YCbCr 709.  I'm poking around in the various RGB project settings and I find whenever I set the Maximum Output Bit Depth to 12, which can only be done in an RGB Color Space, the image seems to suddenly scale as if a Full Scale to Legal was applied. 

I played around and made a black jpeg in photoshop and if I bring import it into the RGB 709 project and tell it to scale full range to legal the black level is elevated to approx 50 mV on the scope.  If I import with no scaling then the black is a 0 mV.  This seems logical given that an RGB project is meant fo be Full Range but what doesn't make sense is that if I leave the maximum output bit depth set to 10 bit I see none of these level shifts and black stays at 0 mV on the scope.  It's only when I toggle to 12bit that I see these shifts.

I'm on MC 2018.12.7, Mac OS 10.12.6 mid 2012 MacPro 3.46 12 core with an Avid DNxIO.

I'm not familiar with these types of projects but I just don't understand why switching maximum Output bit depth would cause level shifts.  Adding more bits shouldn't change the level should it?  It's as if by switching to 123 bit it's enabling a Full Range timeline whereas when in 10 bit Avid treats it like a legal level timeline.  I'm very confused on this.

Help me Mr. Wizard???

John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

Re: [Avid-L2] Consolidating Music Clips to Nexis increases their size 50% to 300%

No, a chunk is a part of a file. See it as a house, A file is a house, a chunk is a room in the house.

 A QT ref file can have thousands of chunks. Forget about chunks in this case, totally unrelated.

Bouke

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On 22 Nov 2019, at 23:41, John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:

All the responses make sense.  Is a Chunk the same as a Block in this context?  Not sure what Avid File System stripe size is I will have to google.  I am passing on all this data.  It really sounds like it's the chunk/block size.  So what is the practical way to address this on a Nexis, which I assume would be a similar way to fix this on a unity?

Over the weekend they are upgrading the Nexis software and perhaps adding more storage at the same time.


On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 12:41 PM, Gowanus Canal wrote:

If you are in high performance mode for the storage group, it doubles the size of the Avid File System stripe size from 512 to 1024. 

 

DQS

 

On Nov 22, 2019, at 2:14 PM, bouke <bouke@editb.nl> wrote:

Let it be clear that I have NO IDEA what Nexis is.

But, for math (that I can do):

From BWF to Avid MXF:

Avid MXF always splits to mono, and will add app. (very rough) 1 MB per track for metadata. (well, less, but keep that in mind.)

Then, from 16 to 24 bits, that is easy, divide by 2 multiply by 3.

 

Then there is something how a drive works, it works in blocks from a specific size. For media drives, a block is HUGE, and only one file can occupy a block (or can occupy multiple blocks.)

 

So, a gazillion small files can occupy less than a few Kb on a floppy, but take up hundreds of MB on a large block size HD.

 

 

Bouke

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On 22 Nov 2019, at 20:05, John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:

We got audio mxf files from a music company along with  avid bins but when they consolidate the files to our nexis they file sizes of mxf audio files are increasing from 50% to 300%.  At first I though with 50% increase they must be going 16bit to 24bit but that doesn't seem to be the case.  Here is what our AE found out today.

 

"tried a small music clip from the drive, and consolidating to the Nexis tripled its size! 9.4MB to 33.6MB.

However, I tried consolidating the same clip to a local drive, and the size did not increase. So it looks like consolidating to the Nexis is increasing the size."

 

They are upgrading this Nexis over the weekend as it's very old software as it was one of the first Nexis units made.  Perhaps that will help with this issue.

 

Anybody seen this kind of behavior?

 

 

John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

Re: [Avid-L2] Final DCP trouble, now what to do?

That does even come close…

I have no clue what happened to Timm, site is online, I fear for the worst.

Bouke

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On 22 Nov 2019, at 23:50, Pat Horridge <pat@horridge.org.uk> wrote:

DCP-omatic is used by a few clients of mine. Mac and PC versions available.

Pat Horridge

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No you are not.

I had the same issue. I tried to contact him by phone, email, Twitter and Facebook with no luck.

Now I'm creating my DCPs on Resolve but I really liked FinalDCP.

Let us know if you manage to get him. I'd love to have my licence working again.

On Fri, 22 Nov 2019, 19:17 bouke, <bouke@editb.nl> wrote:

Am I the only one who has trouble with getting into contact with Timm?

(It's a one man band I presume, and I also presume Timm is following the way of the Dodo. Sad, story probably, but in another way I'm a soulmate…)

Too bad, as it was a good product, that I now no longer can run since the machine with the licence had died.

I've toyed with the free DCP stuff from Adobe, but that sucks big time.

Options?

Bouke

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Re: [Avid-L2] Final DCP trouble, now what to do?

DCP-omatic is used by a few clients of mine. Mac and PC versions available.

Pat Horridge

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To: Avid-L2@groups.io <Avid-L2@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Final DCP trouble, now what to do?

 

No you are not.

I had the same issue. I tried to contact him by phone, email, Twitter and Facebook with no luck.

Now I'm creating my DCPs on Resolve but I really liked FinalDCP.

Let us know if you manage to get him. I'd love to have my licence working again.

On Fri, 22 Nov 2019, 19:17 bouke, <bouke@editb.nl> wrote:

Am I the only one who has trouble with getting into contact with Timm?

(It's a one man band I presume, and I also presume Timm is following the way of the Dodo. Sad, story probably, but in another way I'm a soulmate…)

Too bad, as it was a good product, that I now no longer can run since the machine with the licence had died.

I've toyed with the free DCP stuff from Adobe, but that sucks big time.

Options?

Bouke

Edit 'B / VideoToolShed.com
van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
6512 AS  Nijmegen
+31 6 21817248

Re: [Avid-L2] Consolidating Music Clips to Nexis increases their size 50% to 300%

All the responses make sense.  Is a Chunk the same as a Block in this context?  Not sure what Avid File System stripe size is I will have to google.  I am passing on all this data.  It really sounds like it's the chunk/block size.  So what is the practical way to address this on a Nexis, which I assume would be a similar way to fix this on a unity?

Over the weekend they are upgrading the Nexis software and perhaps adding more storage at the same time.


On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 12:41 PM, Gowanus Canal wrote:

If you are in high performance mode for the storage group, it doubles the size of the Avid File System stripe size from 512 to 1024. 

 

DQS

 

On Nov 22, 2019, at 2:14 PM, bouke <bouke@editb.nl> wrote:

Let it be clear that I have NO IDEA what Nexis is.

But, for math (that I can do):

From BWF to Avid MXF:

Avid MXF always splits to mono, and will add app. (very rough) 1 MB per track for metadata. (well, less, but keep that in mind.)

Then, from 16 to 24 bits, that is easy, divide by 2 multiply by 3.

 

Then there is something how a drive works, it works in blocks from a specific size. For media drives, a block is HUGE, and only one file can occupy a block (or can occupy multiple blocks.)

 

So, a gazillion small files can occupy less than a few Kb on a floppy, but take up hundreds of MB on a large block size HD.

 

 

Bouke

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On 22 Nov 2019, at 20:05, John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:

We got audio mxf files from a music company along with  avid bins but when they consolidate the files to our nexis they file sizes of mxf audio files are increasing from 50% to 300%.  At first I though with 50% increase they must be going 16bit to 24bit but that doesn't seem to be the case.  Here is what our AE found out today.

 

"tried a small music clip from the drive, and consolidating to the Nexis tripled its size! 9.4MB to 33.6MB.

However, I tried consolidating the same clip to a local drive, and the size did not increase. So it looks like consolidating to the Nexis is increasing the size."

 

They are upgrading this Nexis over the weekend as it's very old software as it was one of the first Nexis units made.  Perhaps that will help with this issue.

 

Anybody seen this kind of behavior?

 

 

John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

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Re: [Avid-L2] Final DCP trouble, now what to do?

No you are not.

I had the same issue. I tried to contact him by phone, email, Twitter and Facebook with no luck.

Now I'm creating my DCPs on Resolve but I really liked FinalDCP.

Let us know if you manage to get him. I'd love to have my licence working again.

On Fri, 22 Nov 2019, 19:17 bouke, <bouke@editb.nl> wrote:

Am I the only one who has trouble with getting into contact with Timm?

(It's a one man band I presume, and I also presume Timm is following the way of the Dodo. Sad, story probably, but in another way I'm a soulmate…)

Too bad, as it was a good product, that I now no longer can run since the machine with the licence had died.

I've toyed with the free DCP stuff from Adobe, but that sucks big time.

Options?

Bouke

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Re: [Avid-L2] Final DCP trouble, now what to do?

Depending how complex your DCP is, you may want to look at the DaVinci Resolve option.

David Baud, CSI

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On Nov 22, 2019, at 15:16, bouke <bouke@editb.nl> wrote:

Too bad, as it was a good product, that I now no longer can run since the machine with the licence had died.

I've toyed with the free DCP stuff from Adobe, but that sucks big time.

[Avid-L2] Final DCP trouble, now what to do?

Am I the only one who has trouble with getting into contact with Timm?

(It's a one man band I presume, and I also presume Timm is following the way of the Dodo. Sad, story probably, but in another way I'm a soulmate…)

Too bad, as it was a good product, that I now no longer can run since the machine with the licence had died.

I've toyed with the free DCP stuff from Adobe, but that sucks big time.

Options?

Bouke

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Re: [Avid-L2] Windows Avid and ProRes big news

The spec sheet says MacOS only. But I see there is an update to Kyno 1.7 that supports PR in Windows. They just heed to update the website. 

DQS

On Nov 22, 2019, at 4:16 PM, Rupert Watson <rupertwatson@gmail.com> wrote:



https://lesspain.software/kyno/pages/faq/which-platforms-does-kyno-run-on

 

 

On 22/11/2019, 16:57, "Avid-L2@groups.io on behalf of Gowanus Canal" <Avid-L2@groups.io on behalf of gowanuscanalstinks@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Says MacOS for ProRes on Kyno's website. Is that out of date?

DQS

 

On Nov 22, 2019, at 10:23 AM, Rupert Watson <rupertwatson@gmail.com> wrote:



you need Kyno to do that.

 

On 21/11/2019, 15:46, "Avid-L2@groups.io on behalf of Gowanus Canal" <Avid-L2@groups.io on behalf of gowanuscanalstinks@gmail.com> wrote:

 

ProRes for Windows MC is not out yet. 

 

 

DQS

 

 

On Nov 21, 2019, at 10:40 AM, Karl Knowles <tech@knowlesvideo.com> wrote:

Bumping this topic to see how the new feature is settling out.

Has anyone exported ProRes media from an MC DNx media project on a PC?

If so, are there any caveats or limitations related to resolution and image sizes supported (will it support SD through 4K)?

Is this a 2019.x.x only feature, will it be added to any version of 2018, and at what version did the implementation start?

Cheers,

Karl Knowles

Re: [Avid-L2] Windows Avid and ProRes big news

the announcement is here https://lesspain.software/kyno/pages/news/kyno-1.7-prores-on-windows-metadata-workflows-galore/

 

 

On 22/11/2019, 21:16, "Avid-L2@groups.io on behalf of Rupert Watson via Groups.Io" <Avid-L2@groups.io on behalf of rupertwatson=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

 

https://lesspain.software/kyno/pages/faq/which-platforms-does-kyno-run-on

 

 

On 22/11/2019, 16:57, "Avid-L2@groups.io on behalf of Gowanus Canal" <Avid-L2@groups.io on behalf of gowanuscanalstinks@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Says MacOS for ProRes on Kyno's website. Is that out of date?

DQS

 

 

On Nov 22, 2019, at 10:23 AM, Rupert Watson <rupertwatson@gmail.com> wrote:



you need Kyno to do that.

 

On 21/11/2019, 15:46, "Avid-L2@groups.io on behalf of Gowanus Canal" <Avid-L2@groups.io on behalf of gowanuscanalstinks@gmail.com> wrote:

 

ProRes for Windows MC is not out yet. 

 

 

DQS

 

 

On Nov 21, 2019, at 10:40 AM, Karl Knowles <tech@knowlesvideo.com> wrote:

Bumping this topic to see how the new feature is settling out.

Has anyone exported ProRes media from an MC DNx media project on a PC?

If so, are there any caveats or limitations related to resolution and image sizes supported (will it support SD through 4K)?

Is this a 2019.x.x only feature, will it be added to any version of 2018, and at what version did the implementation start?

Cheers,

Karl Knowles

Re: [Avid-L2] Windows Avid and ProRes big news

https://lesspain.software/kyno/pages/faq/which-platforms-does-kyno-run-on

 

 

On 22/11/2019, 16:57, "Avid-L2@groups.io on behalf of Gowanus Canal" <Avid-L2@groups.io on behalf of gowanuscanalstinks@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Says MacOS for ProRes on Kyno's website. Is that out of date?

DQS

 

On Nov 22, 2019, at 10:23 AM, Rupert Watson <rupertwatson@gmail.com> wrote:



you need Kyno to do that.

 

On 21/11/2019, 15:46, "Avid-L2@groups.io on behalf of Gowanus Canal" <Avid-L2@groups.io on behalf of gowanuscanalstinks@gmail.com> wrote:

 

ProRes for Windows MC is not out yet. 

 

 

DQS

 

 

On Nov 21, 2019, at 10:40 AM, Karl Knowles <tech@knowlesvideo.com> wrote:

Bumping this topic to see how the new feature is settling out.

Has anyone exported ProRes media from an MC DNx media project on a PC?

If so, are there any caveats or limitations related to resolution and image sizes supported (will it support SD through 4K)?

Is this a 2019.x.x only feature, will it be added to any version of 2018, and at what version did the implementation start?

Cheers,

Karl Knowles

Re: [Avid-L2] Consolidating Music Clips to Nexis increases their size 50% to 300%

If you are in high performance mode for the storage group, it doubles the size of the Avid File System stripe size from 512 to 1024. 

DQS

On Nov 22, 2019, at 2:14 PM, bouke <bouke@editb.nl> wrote:

Let it be clear that I have NO IDEA what Nexis is.

But, for math (that I can do):

From BWF to Avid MXF:

Avid MXF always splits to mono, and will add app. (very rough) 1 MB per track for metadata. (well, less, but keep that in mind.)

Then, from 16 to 24 bits, that is easy, divide by 2 multiply by 3.

Then there is something how a drive works, it works in blocks from a specific size. For media drives, a block is HUGE, and only one file can occupy a block (or can occupy multiple blocks.)

So, a gazillion small files can occupy less than a few Kb on a floppy, but take up hundreds of MB on a large block size HD.

Bouke

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On 22 Nov 2019, at 20:05, John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:

We got audio mxf files from a music company along with  avid bins but when they consolidate the files to our nexis they file sizes of mxf audio files are increasing from 50% to 300%.  At first I though with 50% increase they must be going 16bit to 24bit but that doesn't seem to be the case.  Here is what our AE found out today.

"tried a small music clip from the drive, and consolidating to the Nexis tripled its size! 9.4MB to 33.6MB.

However, I tried consolidating the same clip to a local drive, and the size did not increase. So it looks like consolidating to the Nexis is increasing the size."

They are upgrading this Nexis over the weekend as it's very old software as it was one of the first Nexis units made.  Perhaps that will help with this issue.

Anybody seen this kind of behavior?

John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

Re: [Avid-L2] Consolidating Music Clips to Nexis increases their size 50% to 300%

Let it be clear that I have NO IDEA what Nexis is.

But, for math (that I can do):

From BWF to Avid MXF:

Avid MXF always splits to mono, and will add app. (very rough) 1 MB per track for metadata. (well, less, but keep that in mind.)

Then, from 16 to 24 bits, that is easy, divide by 2 multiply by 3.

Then there is something how a drive works, it works in blocks from a specific size. For media drives, a block is HUGE, and only one file can occupy a block (or can occupy multiple blocks.)

So, a gazillion small files can occupy less than a few Kb on a floppy, but take up hundreds of MB on a large block size HD.

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On 22 Nov 2019, at 20:05, John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:

We got audio mxf files from a music company along with  avid bins but when they consolidate the files to our nexis they file sizes of mxf audio files are increasing from 50% to 300%.  At first I though with 50% increase they must be going 16bit to 24bit but that doesn't seem to be the case.  Here is what our AE found out today.

"tried a small music clip from the drive, and consolidating to the Nexis tripled its size! 9.4MB to 33.6MB.

However, I tried consolidating the same clip to a local drive, and the size did not increase. So it looks like consolidating to the Nexis is increasing the size."

They are upgrading this Nexis over the weekend as it's very old software as it was one of the first Nexis units made.  Perhaps that will help with this issue.

Anybody seen this kind of behavior?

John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

Re: [Avid-L2] Consolidating Music Clips to Nexis increases their size 50% to 300%

That would be my guess. Very small files will be taking up a minimum of one chunk so they will have to be a minimum size but with larger files the difference should be less.


Pat Horridge

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Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Consolidating Music Clips to Nexis increases their size 50% to 300%

Chunk size?  --J.B.

John Moore wrote:
> We got audio mxf files from a music company along with  avid bins but
> when they consolidate the files to our nexis they file sizes of mxf
> audio files are increasing from 50% to 300%.  At first I though with
> 50% increase they must be going 16bit to 24bit but that doesn't seem
> to be the case.  Here is what our AE found out today.
>
> "tried a small music clip from the drive, and consolidating to the
> Nexis tripled its size! 9.4MB to 33.6MB.
> However, I tried consolidating the same clip to a local drive, and the
> size did not increase. So it looks like consolidating to the Nexis is
> increasing the size."
>
> They are upgrading this Nexis over the weekend as it's very old
> software as it was one of the first Nexis units made.  Perhaps that
> will help with this issue.
>
> Anybody seen this kind of behavior?
>
>
> John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA
> bigfish@pacbell.net
>





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Re: [Avid-L2] Consolidating Music Clips to Nexis increases their size 50% to 300%

Chunk size?  --J.B.

John Moore wrote:
> We got audio mxf files from a music company along with  avid bins but
> when they consolidate the files to our nexis they file sizes of mxf
> audio files are increasing from 50% to 300%.  At first I though with
> 50% increase they must be going 16bit to 24bit but that doesn't seem
> to be the case.  Here is what our AE found out today.
>
> "tried a small music clip from the drive, and consolidating to the
> Nexis tripled its size! 9.4MB to 33.6MB.
> However, I tried consolidating the same clip to a local drive, and the
> size did not increase. So it looks like consolidating to the Nexis is
> increasing the size."
>
> They are upgrading this Nexis over the weekend as it's very old
> software as it was one of the first Nexis units made.  Perhaps that
> will help with this issue.
>
> Anybody seen this kind of behavior?
>
>
> John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net
>


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[Avid-L2] Consolidating Music Clips to Nexis increases their size 50% to 300%

We got audio mxf files from a music company along with  avid bins but when they consolidate the files to our nexis they file sizes of mxf audio files are increasing from 50% to 300%.  At first I though with 50% increase they must be going 16bit to 24bit but that doesn't seem to be the case.  Here is what our AE found out today.

"tried a small music clip from the drive, and consolidating to the Nexis tripled its size! 9.4MB to 33.6MB.

However, I tried consolidating the same clip to a local drive, and the size did not increase. So it looks like consolidating to the Nexis is increasing the size."

They are upgrading this Nexis over the weekend as it's very old software as it was one of the first Nexis units made.  Perhaps that will help with this issue.

Anybody seen this kind of behavior?

John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

Re: [Avid-L2] Windows Avid and ProRes big news

Says MacOS for ProRes on Kyno's website. Is that out of date?

DQS

On Nov 22, 2019, at 10:23 AM, Rupert Watson <rupertwatson@gmail.com> wrote:



you need Kyno to do that.

 

On 21/11/2019, 15:46, "Avid-L2@groups.io on behalf of Gowanus Canal" <Avid-L2@groups.io on behalf of gowanuscanalstinks@gmail.com> wrote:

 

ProRes for Windows MC is not out yet. 

 

 

DQS

 

On Nov 21, 2019, at 10:40 AM, Karl Knowles <tech@knowlesvideo.com> wrote:

Bumping this topic to see how the new feature is settling out.

Has anyone exported ProRes media from an MC DNx media project on a PC?

If so, are there any caveats or limitations related to resolution and image sizes supported (will it support SD through 4K)?

Is this a 2019.x.x only feature, will it be added to any version of 2018, and at what version did the implementation start?

Cheers,

Karl Knowles

Re: [Avid-L2] Windows Avid and ProRes big news

you need Kyno to do that.

 

On 21/11/2019, 15:46, "Avid-L2@groups.io on behalf of Gowanus Canal" <Avid-L2@groups.io on behalf of gowanuscanalstinks@gmail.com> wrote:

 

ProRes for Windows MC is not out yet. 

 

 

DQS

 

On Nov 21, 2019, at 10:40 AM, Karl Knowles <tech@knowlesvideo.com> wrote:

Bumping this topic to see how the new feature is settling out.

Has anyone exported ProRes media from an MC DNx media project on a PC?

If so, are there any caveats or limitations related to resolution and image sizes supported (will it support SD through 4K)?

Is this a 2019.x.x only feature, will it be added to any version of 2018, and at what version did the implementation start?

Cheers,

Karl Knowles

Re: [Avid-L2] Avid DPX exports time estimate and storage options? Now Difference between OWC Mecury Elite Pro Dual 20TB and Graid 20TB

A while back I had this thread where Graid older 4TB enclosures vs. Graid Newer Enclosures had vastly different performance when exporting DPX out of Avid over USB 3.  I would get estimates of 12 hours going to an older 4TB Graid while going to a newer 20TB would be more like 7 hours or less.  Lately exporting DPX 10bit to Graid 20TB for an hourish show is under 5 hours on my home system.  Now I have an OWC Mercury Elite Pro Dual 20TB and the performance seems to be back up to 7 hours ish.  The media is all the same.  The Mercury Elite Pro Dual is the light chrome version with USB 3 and esata no thunderbolt.  The are all two drive raid 0 units.  I can't seem to find out from the tech specs if the enclosures are Sata II or Sata III.  I'm beginning to think that perhaps those older Graid enclosures might have been Sata II and maybe the newer ones with thunderbolt are Sata III.  From my original thread I had moved a pair of 2TB drives from an older Graid enclosure to the newer Graid enclosure and the performance jumped up to match what I was seeing with the 20TB drive pair in the new enclosure.

I suppose chipsets could also play into this.  Another confusing element is drive speed tests seemed similar with older and new graid enclosures it was just when exporting DPX from Avid that I noticed the big performance difference. 

So now when I see similar DPX export performance differences with the OWC raid enclosure I'm wondering is the performance chipset differences, Sata version in the enclosure or what.  I get that all drives aren't exactly alike but what could it be that is causing the difference and why do disk speed tests seem comparable but DPX export performance does not.  Could there be something unique to how Avid exports DPX.  I really thought I hadn't seen this performance difference until about the last year so maybe something in Avid's reimagined and coded DPX engine is a factor.  By and large my DPX exports improved as Avid improved the DPX support but these differences in export times times between brands and oider vs. newer Graid enclosures make me curious what's going on under the hood.


On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 10:45 AM, John Moore wrote:

Resending as this hasn't posted after two attempts yesterday.

I know the latest Avid versions are better at exporting DPX.  I'm on MC 2018.12.1.  I have to stay on this because of LUT level/scaling issues when jumpint to 2018.12.2 or 2018.12.3.  My last show took approx 7 hours or less to export 10 bit dpx to a GRaid 20 TB.  ON mc 8_9_4 similar exports took around 9 hours.

 

I am on a MacPro Cheesegrater mid 2010 upgraded to 12 core 3.33GHz, 24GB Ram, OS 10.12.6, radeon 5770 1024mB vram.

Today and yesterday I started to export an hour 5 minute sequence to 10 bit dpx.  The entire 4K sequence is rendered to ProResHQ.  Avid is estimating 24 ish hours.  I'm going to a freshly formatted HFS + 4TB Graid.  I tried another 4TB Graid that I didn't reformat but it was HFS+ too.  It didn't have much free space but it acted the same with Avid estimating the same 24 hours ish.

I then got the 20TB Graid I used on the last show that took 7 hours ish to export.  It didn't have much free space but regardless Avid quickly estimated 7 ish hours to export to it.  This is a newer Graid so perhaps it has a newer chip set?  The kicker is when I run Black Magic Disk Speed test the original 4TB drive freshly formatted has write speed of close to 300 mB/sec but the 20 TB Graid tests at approx 250 mB/sec write.  So the 20TB tests slower but it's export estimate according to Avid is 1/3 that of the two 4 TB Graids I tried.  WTF???

I have read about the higher capacity drives have more dense media to allow for more storage capacity.  I assume that means a lot more data can be written/read from a single track revolution.  What I can't rap my head around is why is the 20 TB Graid vastly out performing the 4 TB GRaids when they show a better disk speed test.

I think it is a Sonnet USB 3 card in the mac tower.  System report lists it as "PXS3"

I also tried exporting to a USB 3 tower from Areca that has 8 drives and it got an estimate of 15 hours.  It's speed test was down around 175 mB/sec write.  I don't understand how an 8 drive 28TB raid tower that only had 6TB stored on it under performs both the 4TB and the 20TB Graids.  The Areca is probably 3 or more years old but hasn't seen much use.

Is it at all possible that the older Graids and Areca tower have older chip sets that aren't communicating well with my MacPro USB 3.0 card?  I have noticed Avid is using up virtually all the memory, close to 20 GB and I'm wondering if more RAM would help in this particular function?  Regardless it's the discrepancy between a fresh 4TB Graid sand the 20TB Graid that really confuses me and makes me think there is a chipset/hardware difference causing the difference.

In the past on earlier versions of Avid I've even exported to a single 4TB or 6 TB Hitachi Deskstar drive in a Voyager dock and that still was in the 10 hour range IIRC.

System Report isn't showing me the manufacturer for the USB 3 card in the mac tower just listing it as PXS3.  Is there a way to determine what card it is through software reports or do I have to open up the tower.  I'm not sure if the card is labeled as to who made it.

Another thought is that as Avid improved the DPX export perhaps something changed that is creating the differing exports estimate times between the 20TB and th 4TB Graids.  I have no idea what that would or could be.  Anybody got any suggestions?

 

John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

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