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Friday, September 18, 2020

Re: [Avid-L2] Recommendations for shared storage/media management system.

I have a client whom had a Terror-Block crash and loose all his data not once but twice!

Lumaforge Jellyfish was all the rage for a hot minute. Seems like TrueNAS has stolen their thunder and absolutely destroyed them on price and ability to deliver. Same ZFS filesystem.

On Sep 18, 2020, at 8:52 AM, Secret HQ via groups.io <Greg=SecretHQ.com@groups.io> wrote:

I used terrablock for years and loved it.

Now I'm using qnap- huge Storage pool and inexpensive, but may not have the specific features you're looking for. Check it out.

http://www.bobzelin.com/qnap-frequently-asked-questions

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On Sep 17, 2020, at 18:45, Ofer Raveh <o.raveh@att.net> wrote:

Hi Mike,

Check out editshare EFS200 , the entry level storage.

Ark Tape for archive, and Flow Media Management are included.

This is an on premise solution.

Disclaimer: I work for Editshare/Support. If you need to talk to someone, please email me at: o.raveh@att.net , and I will get you in touch with a sales person in your region.

EFS 200 | Store Video Footage in the Cloud | EditShare

EFS 200 | Store Video Footage in the Cloud | EditShare

EFS 200 is scale-out shared storage that delivers the benefits of EditShare File System in a size that meets the...

Best,

Ofer Raveh

Web: TheBestWeCanBe.net

On Thursday, September 17, 2020, 1:26:33 PM PDT, messymeyer99 via groups.io <messymeyer99=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi all,

My company is looking into getting a shared storage system with a media management component. We are a small team of 5 but looking for something that could house 60 - 100tb with automated backups and some level of media management capabilities. Does anyone have any recommendations for companies and/or systems they have used to build something like this that were reasonable in price and reliable in use?

TIA!!!

Mike Meyer.

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Re: [Avid-L2] Recommendations for shared storage/media management system.

I used terrablock for years and loved it.

Now I'm using qnap- huge Storage pool and inexpensive, but may not have the specific features you're looking for. Check it out.

http://www.bobzelin.com/qnap-frequently-asked-questions

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On Sep 17, 2020, at 18:45, Ofer Raveh <o.raveh@att.net> wrote:

Hi Mike,

Check out editshare EFS200 , the entry level storage.
Ark Tape for archive, and Flow Media Management are included.
This is an on premise solution.

Disclaimer: I work for Editshare/Support. If you need to talk to someone, please email me at: o.raveh@att.net , and I will get you in touch with a sales person in your region.

EFS 200 | Store Video Footage in the Cloud | EditShare

EFS 200 | Store Video Footage in the Cloud | EditShare
EFS 200 is scale-out shared storage that delivers the benefits of EditShare File System in a size that meets the...

Best,
Ofer Raveh
Web: TheBestWeCanBe.net

On Thursday, September 17, 2020, 1:26:33 PM PDT, messymeyer99 via groups.io <messymeyer99=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi all,

My company is looking into getting a shared storage system with a media management component. We are a small team of 5 but looking for something that could house 60 - 100tb with automated backups and some level of media management capabilities. Does anyone have any recommendations for companies and/or systems they have used to build something like this that were reasonable in price and reliable in use?

TIA!!!

Mike Meyer.

Thursday, September 17, 2020

Re: [Avid-L2] Recommendations for shared storage/media management system.

Hi Mike,

Check out editshare EFS200 , the entry level storage.

Ark Tape for archive, and Flow Media Management are included.

This is an on premise solution.

Disclaimer: I work for Editshare/Support. If you need to talk to someone, please email me at: o.raveh@att.net , and I will get you in touch with a sales person in your region.

EFS 200 | Store Video Footage in the Cloud | EditShare

EFS 200 is scale-out shared storage that delivers the benefits of EditShare File System in a size that meets the...

Best,

Ofer Raveh

Web: TheBestWeCanBe.net

On Thursday, September 17, 2020, 1:26:33 PM PDT, messymeyer99 via groups.io <messymeyer99=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi all,

My company is looking into getting a shared storage system with a media management component. We are a small team of 5 but looking for something that could house 60 - 100tb with automated backups and some level of media management capabilities. Does anyone have any recommendations for companies and/or systems they have used to build something like this that were reasonable in price and reliable in use?

TIA!!!

Mike Meyer.

Re: [Avid-L2] How is the Internet/Bandwidth working for people?

This pandemic will definitely change a lot of what we do and how we do it. I'm really impressed with how well basic infrastructure has held up. The amount of residential data transfer, particularly during daytime hours likely increased by an order of magnitude over the span of a few weeks. Cell phone traffic also shifted. Most systems made the changes without interruption. JB

On Sep 17, 2020, at 5:58 PM, Jo's Mailinglists <lists@filter-media.net> wrote:

Me guessing: Covid is for the internet like Fukushima for tapes — though and alas, not at the same speed.

However, you are right: Theres more to bring up fibre than abandon magnetic recording on physical.

my 2¢

Jo

On 18. Sep 2020, at 00:34, JBeck <jb30343@windstream.net> wrote:

I have very slow DSL. I've been using HPRGS and I'm amazed at how productive I can be. Yes it lags. Yes the picture sucks while playing. Yes sync is soft. But I can sit at home and have almost full access to my system at work. My only complaint is that HP changed the name. JB

On Sep 17, 2020, at 5:25 PM, John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:

I recall speculation that in the US the internet was going to be stressed due to the Pandemic and people working from home. My wife has successfully edited remotely first with HPRGS and then with Splashtop. Another assistant id using Jump Desk.

For the last approx. 3 weeks I've noticed a lot more audio issues on my Zoom meetings. This coincides with LA school etc... getting back online.

Curious what others are seeing in their daily work?

John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

Re: [Avid-L2] How is the Internet/Bandwidth working for people?

The HPRGS definitely worked better than splashtop. But splashtop allowed the use of mac workstations at the office whereas they originally retooled to HP workstations to run HPRGS. I was told HPRGS is really just sending pixels which is a big reason it works better than most of the other options.

On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 03:34 PM, JBeck wrote:

I have very slow DSL. I’ve been using HPRGS and I’m amazed at how productive I can be. Yes it lags. Yes the picture sucks while playing. Yes sync is soft. But I can sit at home and have almost full access to my system at work. My only complaint is that HP changed the name. JB

On Sep 17, 2020, at 5:25 PM, John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:

I recall speculation that in the US the internet was going to be stressed due to the Pandemic and people working from home. My wife has successfully edited remotely first with HPRGS and then with Splashtop. Another assistant id using Jump Desk.

For the last approx. 3 weeks I've noticed a lot more audio issues on my Zoom meetings. This coincides with LA school etc... getting back online.

Curious what others are seeing in their daily work?

John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

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Re: [Avid-L2] How is the Internet/Bandwidth working for people?

Me guessing: Covid is for the internet like Fukushima for tapes — though and alas, not at the same speed.

However, you are right: Theres more to bring up fibre than abandon magnetic recording on physical.

my 2¢

On 18. Sep 2020, at 00:34, JBeck <jb30343@windstream.net> wrote:

I have very slow DSL. I've been using HPRGS and I'm amazed at how productive I can be. Yes it lags. Yes the picture sucks while playing. Yes sync is soft. But I can sit at home and have almost full access to my system at work. My only complaint is that HP changed the name. JB

On Sep 17, 2020, at 5:25 PM, John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:

I recall speculation that in the US the internet was going to be stressed due to the Pandemic and people working from home. My wife has successfully edited remotely first with HPRGS and then with Splashtop. Another assistant id using Jump Desk.

For the last approx. 3 weeks I've noticed a lot more audio issues on my Zoom meetings. This coincides with LA school etc... getting back online.

Curious what others are seeing in their daily work?

John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

Re: [Avid-L2] How is the Internet/Bandwidth working for people?

I have very slow DSL. I've been using HPRGS and I'm amazed at how productive I can be. Yes it lags. Yes the picture sucks while playing. Yes sync is soft. But I can sit at home and have almost full access to my system at work. My only complaint is that HP changed the name. JB

On Sep 17, 2020, at 5:25 PM, John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:

I recall speculation that in the US the internet was going to be stressed due to the Pandemic and people working from home. My wife has successfully edited remotely first with HPRGS and then with Splashtop. Another assistant id using Jump Desk.

For the last approx. 3 weeks I've noticed a lot more audio issues on my Zoom meetings. This coincides with LA school etc... getting back online.

Curious what others are seeing in their daily work?

John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

[Avid-L2] How is the Internet/Bandwidth working for people?

I recall speculation that in the US the internet was going to be stressed due to the Pandemic and people working from home. My wife has successfully edited remotely first with HPRGS and then with Splashtop. Another assistant id using Jump Desk.

For the last approx. 3 weeks I've noticed a lot more audio issues on my Zoom meetings. This coincides with LA school etc... getting back online.

Curious what others are seeing in their daily work?

John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

Re: [Avid-L2] ROI period for equipment... #OffTopic #post

Every Genelec monitor I've listened to made me feel like someone was
poking an ice pick into my ears. Granted, that's based on stuff they
made years ago. Hopefully some of their new stuff is better. --J.B.

Andi wrote:
> The way I'm looking at the figures I see it like this: The initial
> 16.5k, plus:
> 3 x MC licenses @ £429/year
> 3 x pairs Genelecs @ £325 each
> 6 x 24inch monitors @ approx £150 each
> So a total cost of roughly £25,682
> So closer to £100/week but not factoring in the lack of support or the
> upkeep if something is damaged or faulty and not factoring in having
> the option to upgrade the kit when new hardware is released. I feel
> like this makes it a much closer call as it's only then about £300
> cheaper over 5 years. The support alone must be worth that? And you
> should definitely be able to answer that one Rupert! ;)
>

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Re: [Avid-L2] Recommendations for shared storage/media management system.

You could use Robocopy for the automated backups to the workspaces on Cloudspaces. If you want the backup destination to be on premise then you can use Archiware, XenData or Storage DNA to an LTO device or a Synology NAS and you could use Wasabi S3 storage as the destination. Most backup middleware will talk to Wasabi these days if you don't want to go to LTO or NAS on premise.

If you have a little more cash for the media management then go for Marquis Project Parking or Workspace Sync.

On 17/09/2020, 21:34, "Avid-L2@groups.io" <Avid-L2@groups.io> wrote:

A couple of Nexis Pro 40TB units with Cloudspaces and http://djfio.com/mdv/ to manage the media which you can move to and from Cloudspaces as needed.

On 17/09/2020, 21:26, "Avid-L2@groups.io" <Avid-L2@groups.io> wrote:

TIA!!!

Mike Meyer.

Re: [Avid-L2] ROI period for equipment... #OffTopic #post

No problem!

If this is for offline then the pokier Mac Minis are man enough for that. So three of them might be a better investment if they are buying. The MacPros are overkill for offline and the MacBook only makes sense if you need a built in screen for being mobile. If you are attaching external monitors, use a Mac Mini.

On 17/09/2020, 20:25, "Avid-L2@groups.io" <Avid-L2@groups.io> wrote:

Oh Jesus, I'm a morron! haha, I've absolutely got this wrong. Maths never was my strong suit. Ok yes I see what you're saying. *slowly backs out of the room...

Re: [Avid-L2] ROI period for equipment... #OffTopic #post

Another good point Rob. Glad I humiliated myself here rather than in front of the accountants at work!

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Re: [Avid-L2] Recommendations for shared storage/media management system.

A couple of Nexis Pro 40TB units with Cloudspaces and http://djfio.com/mdv/ to manage the media which you can move to and from Cloudspaces as needed.

On 17/09/2020, 21:26, "Avid-L2@groups.io" <Avid-L2@groups.io> wrote:

TIA!!!

Mike Meyer.

[Avid-L2] Recommendations for shared storage/media management system.

TIA!!!

Mike Meyer.

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Re: [Avid-L2] ROI period for equipment... #OffTopic #post

Andi,

one other thing to confirm that the rental price on the Mac won't go up.

I can't see new MacPros renting for the same rate as the 7 year old towers.

rob

On Sep 17, 2020, at 11:56 AM, Rupert Watson <rupertwatson@gmail.com> wrote:

Andi, £16,500 over five years is about £63.50 a week on my calculator. So it will cost you about £22.5K more to rent than to buy (over five years). That will buy you a lot of Genelec speakers, Avid keyboards and GUI monitors.

On 17/09/2020, 19:46, "Avid-L2@groups.io" <Avid-L2@groups.io> wrote:

I'm in the process of discussing new gear with the company I am working for and we are weighing up the benefits of owning over renting. They're looking to buy 2 new Mac Pro 2019 towers and a 2019 Macbook Pro. Only looking at very conservatively spec'd machines still comes out around £16.5k ($21k-ish). I'm just wondering, what do others see as a good time period for ROI of assets like this? Even over a period of 5 years, 16.5k would still work out to be more expensive than renting the equipment on a weekly basis from a hire company (we get a very good deal with them). Adding on to that, all of the support that the hire company provides (which is first class) would vanish and they would be required to look after the equipment themselves, which I think is a terrible idea as they are just a production company with no dedicated post department or tech staff other than I.T. guys with no post background. They'd also be locked in to those machines for as long as they have them rather than taking advantage of updated hardware each time the hire company upgrades it's kit.

My initial response to hearing they wanted to buy rather than rent was "Why?" but maybe I'm missing something and wondered what others' thoughts on the matter were?

For some reference the hire company charges us £50/week each for one Macbook and two MacPro (2013) towers currently, so £150/week for all three. All with MC Ultimate installed and all with full support. These also come with all peripherals (genelec speakers, mouse/keyboard, 2 x GUI monitors and various connectors). The only thing they don't provide is a client monitor and BOB which we don't need anyway. For me that seems like an amazing deal.

Thanks for any thoughts,

Andi

Re: [Avid-L2] ROI period for equipment... #OffTopic #post

Oh Jesus, I'm a morron! haha, I've absolutely got this wrong. Maths never was my strong suit. Ok yes I see what you're saying. *slowly backs out of the room...

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Re: [Avid-L2] ROI period for equipment... #OffTopic #post

The way I'm looking at the figures I see it like this: The initial 16.5k, plus:
3 x MC licenses @ £429/year
3 x pairs Genelecs @ £325 each
6 x 24inch monitors @ approx £150 each
So a total cost of roughly £25,682
So closer to £100/week but not factoring in the lack of support or the upkeep if something is damaged or faulty and not factoring in having the option to upgrade the kit when new hardware is released. I feel like this makes it a much closer call as it's only then about £300 cheaper over 5 years. The support alone must be worth that? And you should definitely be able to answer that one Rupert! ;)

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Re: [Avid-L2] ROI period for equipment... #OffTopic #post

Andi, £16,500 over five years is about £63.50 a week on my calculator. So it will cost you about £22.5K more to rent than to buy (over five years). That will buy you a lot of Genelec speakers, Avid keyboards and GUI monitors.

On 17/09/2020, 19:46, "Avid-L2@groups.io" <Avid-L2@groups.io> wrote:

I'm in the process of discussing new gear with the company I am working for and we are weighing up the benefits of owning over renting. They're looking to buy 2 new Mac Pro 2019 towers and a 2019 Macbook Pro. Only looking at very conservatively spec'd machines still comes out around £16.5k ($21k-ish). I'm just wondering, what do others see as a good time period for ROI of assets like this? Even over a period of 5 years, 16.5k would still work out to be more expensive than renting the equipment on a weekly basis from a hire company (we get a very good deal with them). Adding on to that, all of the support that the hire company provides (which is first class) would vanish and they would be required to look after the equipment themselves, which I think is a terrible idea as they are just a production company with no dedicated post department or tech staff other than I.T. guys with no post background. They'd also be locked in to those machines for as long as they have them rather than taking advantage of updated hardware each time the hire company upgrades it's kit.

My initial response to hearing they wanted to buy rather than rent was "Why?" but maybe I'm missing something and wondered what others' thoughts on the matter were?

For some reference the hire company charges us £50/week each for one Macbook and two MacPro (2013) towers currently, so £150/week for all three. All with MC Ultimate installed and all with full support. These also come with all peripherals (genelec speakers, mouse/keyboard, 2 x GUI monitors and various connectors). The only thing they don't provide is a client monitor and BOB which we don't need anyway. For me that seems like an amazing deal.

Thanks for any thoughts,

Andi

[Avid-L2] ROI period for equipment... #OffTopic #post

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Wednesday, September 16, 2020

Re: [Avid-L2] Artist Color Panel very degraded in Resolve 16 OS 10.13.6 vs. Resolve 15 OS 10.12.6?

Thanks for the suggestions. Somethiing to consider. I might just stick with 10.12.6 for now and if I want to run Resolve 16 just shut the expansion chassis off. I guess I never utilized the TitanXs in their prime and now it seems the limitations of the expansion chassis hook up make them no more effective than the GTX-980 Ti and in fact a little slower on my simple tests.

On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 11:28 PM, Dave Hogan wrote:

Hey John,

I realize you have a lot invested in your existing Nvidia cards, but I suggest you consider another route, that would, unfortunately require you to abandon your existing cards.

I currently have one of the few Nvidia cards that supports Metal, so when I recently upgraded to High Sierra, I removed the Nvidia and CUDA drivers/software, to rely completely on native Metal acceleration.

I was very pleasantly surprised how my single Nvidia GeForce GTX 780 6GB card, running under metal acceleration and with no Nvidia or CUDA worked with both Resolve and Media Composer. And this is only running with Metal “GPUFamily1 v3”. Newer cards support higher versions of Metal compatibility for more acceleration.

Caveats…I don’t run 4K footage, and just mess around with it at home, mostly for training. I looked up your existing Nvidia cards, and none of them support metal, unless your TitanX cards are actually XP cards.

If you could get your hands on a couple Metal compatible cards for a test, you might find the performance to be very respectable under Metal acceleration on Mac, and it would likely support all your existing software applications without issues.

Otherwise build a PC or Linux workstation that can fit all those excellent cards and run them all under CUDA/Nvidia drivers? All the pro systems we use at the facility I work at are built running Linux.

Just knocking around ideas here…

Dave Hogan

Burbank, CA

On Sep 15, 2020, at 9:11 PM, John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:

I could check with MacVidCards but I don't think there enough juice in a macpro tower. I had to get a 1500 watt PSU for the expansion chassis. The Titans take 600 watts each. The GTX-980 Ti IIRC is 300 watts and that's probably pushing things as it is. I guess when pushed to hard the GPU would just throttle back if power was low. I don't know if the Pixas mod would be necessary but something to look into for the 980 Ti. Of course at some point reality needs to set in and it's time to upgrade the system or upgrade myself out of the industry. Not sure which is more costly these days. ;-)

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Tuesday, September 15, 2020

Re: [Avid-L2] Artist Color Panel very degraded in Resolve 16 OS 10.13.6 vs. Resolve 15 OS 10.12.6?

Hey John,

I realize you have a lot invested in your existing Nvidia cards, but I suggest you consider another route, that would, unfortunately require you to abandon your existing cards.

I currently have one of the few Nvidia cards that supports Metal, so when I recently upgraded to High Sierra, I removed the Nvidia and CUDA drivers/software, to rely completely on native Metal acceleration.

I was very pleasantly surprised how my single Nvidia GeForce GTX 780 6GB card, running under metal acceleration and with no Nvidia or CUDA worked with both Resolve and Media Composer. And this is only running with Metal "GPUFamily1 v3". Newer cards support higher versions of Metal compatibility for more acceleration.

Caveats…I don't run 4K footage, and just mess around with it at home, mostly for training. I looked up your existing Nvidia cards, and none of them support metal, unless your TitanX cards are actually XP cards.

If you could get your hands on a couple Metal compatible cards for a test, you might find the performance to be very respectable under Metal acceleration on Mac, and it would likely support all your existing software applications without issues.

Otherwise build a PC or Linux workstation that can fit all those excellent cards and run them all under CUDA/Nvidia drivers? All the pro systems we use at the facility I work at are built running Linux.

Just knocking around ideas here…

Dave Hogan

Burbank, CA

On Sep 15, 2020, at 9:11 PM, John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:

I could check with MacVidCards but I don't think there enough juice in a macpro tower. I had to get a 1500 watt PSU for the expansion chassis. The Titans take 600 watts each. The GTX-980 Ti IIRC is 300 watts and that's probably pushing things as it is. I guess when pushed to hard the GPU would just throttle back if power was low. I don't know if the Pixas mod would be necessary but something to look into for the 980 Ti. Of course at some point reality needs to set in and it's time to upgrade the system or upgrade myself out of the industry. Not sure which is more costly these days. ;-)

Re: [Avid-L2] Artist Color Panel very degraded in Resolve 16 OS 10.13.6 vs. Resolve 15 OS 10.12.6?

I could check with MacVidCards but I don't think there enough juice in a macpro tower. I had to get a 1500 watt PSU for the expansion chassis. The Titans take 600 watts each. The GTX-980 Ti IIRC is 300 watts and that's probably pushing things as it is. I guess when pushed to hard the GPU would just throttle back if power was low. I don't know if the Pixas mod would be necessary but something to look into for the 980 Ti. Of course at some point reality needs to set in and it's time to upgrade the system or upgrade myself out of the industry. Not sure which is more costly these days. ;-)

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Re: [Avid-L2] Artist Color Panel very degraded in Resolve 16 OS 10.13.6 vs. Resolve 15 OS 10.12.6?

Have you tested to see if you can't get one on the Titan with this OS? You never know...

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On Sep 15, 2020, at 9:25 PM, John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:

I'm on a mid2012 macpro and I want a boot screen.

On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 05:01 PM, Jeff Kreines wrote:

Why not try the two Titans inside the PC and use the expansion chassis as a door stop (or as a PS for the Titans if needed. Just a hunch.

I'm waiting on the RTX 3090...

Jeff Kreines
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On Sep 15, 2020, at 6:32 PM, John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:

So I think I have discovered the core irony in all my testing and tweaking.

Yesterday I did a simple color correction in Resolve of a Zoom meeting for a friend. It was .mp4 720P. Noisy and not great but it was just something to be used for fund raising. There were two files one 40 minute ish and one closer to an hour. I did a basic 7 node color correction one node for noise reduction. When I went to export to H_264 .mp4 I found that using only the GTX-980 Ti in the tower was faster than using the two TitanX GPUs in the expansion chassis. The shorter file took around 13:30 to render using the GTX-980 Ti and more like 13:50 using the Two TitanX in the expansion chassis. Similar results with the longer file.

One difference is the tower fans took off more running the GTX-980 Ti as it was being pushed. I guess this isn't surprising but I had thought the extra Vram in the TitanX GPUs would make them faster. Perhaps this task didn't max out the Vram on any of the cards. The GPU history was not maxed out in activity monitor in either mode but the two TitanX showed less on the graph than the GTX-980 Ti.

The expansion chassis is feed from the second 16 lane slot in the tower but clearly it is somewhat hampered compared to having the GPUs right in the Tower. I know that's obvious I'm just a little surprised the Two Titan X GPUs didn't work at least a little faster than the single 980. I guess it must be the nature of the umbilical connection of the Expansion chassis along with Two GPUs pulling down the same cable. I did try with one TitanX but the results were similar.

Perhaps if I had a ton of stuff going on it might make more of a difference but I'm just speculating. I think the GTX-980 Ti would push the power limits of the Tower if it was flat out maxed. I just notice a few degrees warmer on the temp guage software and the fans went up about 300 rpms as the gpu history went up for the heavier noise reduction sections. I wonder if I put one of the TitanX GPUs in the 16 lane slot in the tower and jury rigged the expansion chassis 1500 watt psu to drive it how much performance I might see. I'd keep the 980 for boot gpu. Not sure if macs like two GPUs in towers. I've seen to Quadro 4K card so I guess it's possible.

I'm sure Grant Petty is just aching to tweak his code to help me out. ;-)

Re: [Avid-L2] Artist Color Panel very degraded in Resolve 16 OS 10.13.6 vs. Resolve 15 OS 10.12.6?

I'm on a mid2012 macpro and I want a boot screen.

On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 05:01 PM, Jeff Kreines wrote:

Why not try the two Titans inside the PC and use the expansion chassis as a door stop (or as a PS for the Titans if needed. Just a hunch.

I’m waiting on the RTX 3090...

Jeff Kreines
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On Sep 15, 2020, at 6:32 PM, John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:

So I think I have discovered the core irony in all my testing and tweaking.

Yesterday I did a simple color correction in Resolve of a Zoom meeting for a friend. It was .mp4 720P. Noisy and not great but it was just something to be used for fund raising. There were two files one 40 minute ish and one closer to an hour. I did a basic 7 node color correction one node for noise reduction. When I went to export to H_264 .mp4 I found that using only the GTX-980 Ti in the tower was faster than using the two TitanX GPUs in the expansion chassis. The shorter file took around 13:30 to render using the GTX-980 Ti and more like 13:50 using the Two TitanX in the expansion chassis. Similar results with the longer file.

One difference is the tower fans took off more running the GTX-980 Ti as it was being pushed. I guess this isn't surprising but I had thought the extra Vram in the TitanX GPUs would make them faster. Perhaps this task didn't max out the Vram on any of the cards. The GPU history was not maxed out in activity monitor in either mode but the two TitanX showed less on the graph than the GTX-980 Ti.

The expansion chassis is feed from the second 16 lane slot in the tower but clearly it is somewhat hampered compared to having the GPUs right in the Tower. I know that's obvious I'm just a little surprised the Two Titan X GPUs didn't work at least a little faster than the single 980. I guess it must be the nature of the umbilical connection of the Expansion chassis along with Two GPUs pulling down the same cable. I did try with one TitanX but the results were similar.

Perhaps if I had a ton of stuff going on it might make more of a difference but I'm just speculating. I think the GTX-980 Ti would push the power limits of the Tower if it was flat out maxed. I just notice a few degrees warmer on the temp guage software and the fans went up about 300 rpms as the gpu history went up for the heavier noise reduction sections. I wonder if I put one of the TitanX GPUs in the 16 lane slot in the tower and jury rigged the expansion chassis 1500 watt psu to drive it how much performance I might see. I'd keep the 980 for boot gpu. Not sure if macs like two GPUs in towers. I've seen to Quadro 4K card so I guess it's possible.

I'm sure Grant Petty is just aching to tweak his code to help me out. ;-)

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Re: [Avid-L2] Artist Color Panel very degraded in Resolve 16 OS 10.13.6 vs. Resolve 15 OS 10.12.6?

Why not try the two Titans inside the PC and use the expansion chassis as a door stop (or as a PS for the Titans if needed. Just a hunch.

I'm waiting on the RTX 3090...

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On Sep 15, 2020, at 6:32 PM, John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:

So I think I have discovered the core irony in all my testing and tweaking.

Yesterday I did a simple color correction in Resolve of a Zoom meeting for a friend. It was .mp4 720P. Noisy and not great but it was just something to be used for fund raising. There were two files one 40 minute ish and one closer to an hour. I did a basic 7 node color correction one node for noise reduction. When I went to export to H_264 .mp4 I found that using only the GTX-980 Ti in the tower was faster than using the two TitanX GPUs in the expansion chassis. The shorter file took around 13:30 to render using the GTX-980 Ti and more like 13:50 using the Two TitanX in the expansion chassis. Similar results with the longer file.

One difference is the tower fans took off more running the GTX-980 Ti as it was being pushed. I guess this isn't surprising but I had thought the extra Vram in the TitanX GPUs would make them faster. Perhaps this task didn't max out the Vram on any of the cards. The GPU history was not maxed out in activity monitor in either mode but the two TitanX showed less on the graph than the GTX-980 Ti.

The expansion chassis is feed from the second 16 lane slot in the tower but clearly it is somewhat hampered compared to having the GPUs right in the Tower. I know that's obvious I'm just a little surprised the Two Titan X GPUs didn't work at least a little faster than the single 980. I guess it must be the nature of the umbilical connection of the Expansion chassis along with Two GPUs pulling down the same cable. I did try with one TitanX but the results were similar.

Perhaps if I had a ton of stuff going on it might make more of a difference but I'm just speculating. I think the GTX-980 Ti would push the power limits of the Tower if it was flat out maxed. I just notice a few degrees warmer on the temp guage software and the fans went up about 300 rpms as the gpu history went up for the heavier noise reduction sections. I wonder if I put one of the TitanX GPUs in the 16 lane slot in the tower and jury rigged the expansion chassis 1500 watt psu to drive it how much performance I might see. I'd keep the 980 for boot gpu. Not sure if macs like two GPUs in towers. I've seen to Quadro 4K card so I guess it's possible.

I'm sure Grant Petty is just aching to tweak his code to help me out. ;-)

Re: [Avid-L2] Artist Color Panel very degraded in Resolve 16 OS 10.13.6 vs. Resolve 15 OS 10.12.6?

So I think I have discovered the core irony in all my testing and tweaking.

Yesterday I did a simple color correction in Resolve of a Zoom meeting for a friend. It was .mp4 720P. Noisy and not great but it was just something to be used for fund raising. There were two files one 40 minute ish and one closer to an hour. I did a basic 7 node color correction one node for noise reduction. When I went to export to H_264 .mp4 I found that using only the GTX-980 Ti in the tower was faster than using the two TitanX GPUs in the expansion chassis. The shorter file took around 13:30 to render using the GTX-980 Ti and more like 13:50 using the Two TitanX in the expansion chassis. Similar results with the longer file.

One difference is the tower fans took off more running the GTX-980 Ti as it was being pushed. I guess this isn't surprising but I had thought the extra Vram in the TitanX GPUs would make them faster. Perhaps this task didn't max out the Vram on any of the cards. The GPU history was not maxed out in activity monitor in either mode but the two TitanX showed less on the graph than the GTX-980 Ti.

The expansion chassis is feed from the second 16 lane slot in the tower but clearly it is somewhat hampered compared to having the GPUs right in the Tower. I know that's obvious I'm just a little surprised the Two Titan X GPUs didn't work at least a little faster than the single 980. I guess it must be the nature of the umbilical connection of the Expansion chassis along with Two GPUs pulling down the same cable. I did try with one TitanX but the results were similar.

Perhaps if I had a ton of stuff going on it might make more of a difference but I'm just speculating. I think the GTX-980 Ti would push the power limits of the Tower if it was flat out maxed. I just notice a few degrees warmer on the temp guage software and the fans went up about 300 rpms as the gpu history went up for the heavier noise reduction sections. I wonder if I put one of the TitanX GPUs in the 16 lane slot in the tower and jury rigged the expansion chassis 1500 watt psu to drive it how much performance I might see. I'd keep the 980 for boot gpu. Not sure if macs like two GPUs in towers. I've seen to Quadro 4K card so I guess it's possible.

I'm sure Grant Petty is just aching to tweak his code to help me out. ;-)

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Monday, September 14, 2020

Re: [Avid-L2] Calling all (old) WGBH Editors ....

Steve is working at Frontline, yes- tho from Home for now. He's on the Facebook side of the L2- https://www.facebook.com/groups/AVIDL2/members/

On 9/8/20, 4:45 PM, "Avid-L2@groups.io on behalf of wilsonchao" wrote:

Last I heard, Steve Audette was working at Frontline with Mike Kirk, and Mark Steele had gone to work at Harvard. Dunno about Doug.

On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 6:15 PM Jef Huey <jlhueyc2@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello all,
I am currently trying to clean up an old BSP SD copy of a PBS show produced by WGBH back in 1993 - "Peter, Paul and Mommie too". The on-line editors were Mark Steele, Doug Martin and Steve Audette.

I would love to ask a few questions if any of those three are lurking around.

Cheers,
Jef

Re: [Avid-L2] Nvidia just acquired ARM?

It just means that Apple will have to pay Nvidia for the Arm license they already have. The contracts were signed and finished years ago. Nvidia will have to honor them. Just like Disney has to honor the Marvel characters at Universal Florida - Disney owns them now but Universal mad the deal with Marvel long before hand. So they get to keep them on Property (Avengers only, in Florida) in perpetuity.

Mark

On 9/14/2020 9:37 AM, Philip Hodgetts wrote:

Apple design and (contract) manufacture their own silicon based on ARM reference designs they license. I don't think the purchase of ARM by Nvidia will have any affect at all.

Philip

On Sep 13, 2020, at 7:20 PM, John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:

Just saw Nvidia has acquired ARM. I wonder how this might effect nVidia/cuda GPU compatibility. I read ARM are faster in phones and Mac is switching it's processor over to ARM from Intel. I'm not versed in the subtleties of how ARM processors effect the rest of the processing food chain. Could this move in any way revive CUDA/nVidia GPU life spans. I would think not but perhaps more under the hood savvy might be able to shed some light on this.

I do find it interesting that it seemed like Mac and nVidia were at odds of late. Does nVidia acquiring ARM mean they are on the mend and maybe my nVidia GPU Cuda cards won't have to sleep on the couch anymore? ;-)

John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

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