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Thursday, February 10, 2022

Re: [Avid-L2] Export AVI HD 1920x1080 ?

+1 for Shutter Encoder (which is an FFMPEG GUI). The dev is really responsive too.

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Wednesday, February 9, 2022

Re: [Avid-L2] Export AVI HD 1920x1080 ?

This was a great thread. Have never heard of Shutter Encoder but now its in my system. Made my donation. Its really a great tool!!

Thanks to all!

Lou

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On Feb 9, 2022, at 10:57 AM, chris@wildwdstudios.com wrote:

Wizards -

Thanks for the quick and constructive suggestions. I completely forgot about all the things Shutter Encoder can do!

I don't use Adobe Media Encoder, but Shutter Encoder did the trick with ease converting the Quicktime file into AVI using the H.264 codec.

Many, many thanks!

Chris "Angus" Sweitzer
Media Composer 2018.12.11
Win 7 Pro SP1
HP z420 - 32 GB RAM - Intel Xenon CPU ES-1620 @ 3.70 GHz

Re: [Avid-L2] Export AVI HD 1920x1080 ?

Wizards -

Thanks for the quick and constructive suggestions. I completely forgot about all the things Shutter Encoder can do!

I don't use Adobe Media Encoder, but Shutter Encoder did the trick with ease converting the Quicktime file into AVI using the H.264 codec.

Many, many thanks!

Chris "Angus" Sweitzer
Media Composer 2018.12.11
Win 7 Pro SP1
HP z420 - 32 GB RAM - Intel Xenon CPU ES-1620 @ 3.70 GHz

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Re: [Avid-L2] Export AVI HD 1920x1080 ?

Or if not Media Encoder, try Shutter Encoder. Free but well worth donating to the coder.

With Best Wishes, Roger Shufflebottom +44 7973 543 660

Now available – The Media Composer Companion

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On Wednesday, 9 February 2022, 07:59:31 GMT, Joe McDonnell <ltr54@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Export to DNxHD format then use Adobe Media Encoder? ME does just about any format known to man.

Tom McD

New Orleans, La

On Feb 9, 2022, at 1:23 AM, chris@wildwdstudios.com wrote:

Wizards of Avid-L2:

I have been lurking on this forum for years and am truly stunned by the depth and breadth of helpful expertise available on this forum.

I have a client who is requiring delivery in AVI HD 1920x1080 format. I have been searching for solutions without success. What workflow can I use to generate the desired delivery format from Media Composer 2018.12.11?

Many thanks,

Chris "Angus" Sweitzer
Media Composer 2018.12.11
Win 7 Pro SP1
HP z420 - 32 GB RAM - Intel Xenon CPU ES-1620 @ 3.70 GHz

Tuesday, February 8, 2022

Re: [Avid-L2] Export AVI HD 1920x1080 ?

Export to DNxHD format then use Adobe Media Encoder? ME does just about any format known to man.

Tom McD

New Orleans, La

On Feb 9, 2022, at 1:23 AM, chris@wildwdstudios.com wrote:

Wizards of Avid-L2:

I have been lurking on this forum for years and am truly stunned by the depth and breadth of helpful expertise available on this forum.

I have a client who is requiring delivery in AVI HD 1920x1080 format. I have been searching for solutions without success. What workflow can I use to generate the desired delivery format from Media Composer 2018.12.11?

Many thanks,

Chris "Angus" Sweitzer
Media Composer 2018.12.11
Win 7 Pro SP1
HP z420 - 32 GB RAM - Intel Xenon CPU ES-1620 @ 3.70 GHz

[Avid-L2] Export AVI HD 1920x1080 ?

Wizards of Avid-L2:

I have been lurking on this forum for years and am truly stunned by the depth and breadth of helpful expertise available on this forum.

I have a client who is requiring delivery in AVI HD 1920x1080 format. I have been searching for solutions without success. What workflow can I use to generate the desired delivery format from Media Composer 2018.12.11?

Many thanks,

Chris "Angus" Sweitzer
Media Composer 2018.12.11
Win 7 Pro SP1
HP z420 - 32 GB RAM - Intel Xenon CPU ES-1620 @ 3.70 GHz

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Monday, February 7, 2022

Re: [Avid-L2] Avid Dongle on Apple Silicon (M1 + derivates)

I understand that is what they want for the guaranteed renewal subscription model that stock holders like. Here's my pet peeve and it is certainly to be taken with a grain of salt. I am willing to spend the extra 100 buck on an annual renewal for my perpetual dongle. If fifty people in the whole world feel like me that's an extra 5K in revenue. How hard is it to write a Monterey driver for a USB dongle? Bouke at VideoToolShed whips out updates and apps all the time. He's updated some of his programs overnight when I found a bug. My very limited coding was back in Fortran IV on a DEC 11/10 with front panel dip switches so I have no practical feel for the complexity of writing a driver but I would think that's pretty rudimentary. Perhaps I'm totally wrong. I'm feeling it is business model wayyyyyyy more than coding costs.

On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 08:38 AM, Jeff Sengpiehl wrote:

The deal is Avid has wanted to kill off Dongles for more then a decade-   why spend money to work against long term objectives?

Jeff Sengpiehl
Chief Technologist
Key Code Media | 818-303-3900
Direct: 818-303-3932

On 2/7/22, 8:35 AM, "Avid-L2@groups.io on behalf of Jo's Mailinglists"  wrote:

Hey all,

just wanted to ask the question again:

why could iLok not be a solution for the issue at hand?

fwik ProTools is utilising this technique – could the M1/Monterey thing with the Sentinels not be solved if Avid MC et al. moves to iLok like ProTools did before?

Honestly: I'd seldomly end up without a ProTools license (web) "on site" with no internet rather than on a site editing where there is no signal at all.

I'd prefer just "dongle it up" solution than get licenses transferred via Avid Link through the interwebs.

So, question is: what's the deal "to code" Avid MC to iLok? Sure it will end up with: "send in your Sentinels and get the iLok code" – but is that the thing?

It's not like it's been done before, even in the same company?



many cents of mine, just 6 in this thread...

Jochen "Jo" Hermann

filter Media Postproduction

Salzburg, Austria

On 4. Feb 2022, at 17:23, Marianna <marianna.montague@avid.com> wrote:

Ha John… good comeback. 😊

Do you have any idea what the ratio is of dongle to activation out there? It's pretty surprising and eye opening. If I was to guess and this is my take based on 18 years of supporting them… it is a small #, maybe 15-20% and that's generous. All enterprise has moved on for the most part – while a bunch of rentals still have dongles - it is generally only individuals such as yourself that use them. Revenue streams are part of it….. you are saying we should invest a lot of money into dongle compatibility so a small percentage of users can use them on Monterey.   They work fine on Win and BigSur and lower. It's a small niche and yes it is the right call to trump it and use that $ for other functionality and features… cloud licensing was one and we have other projects in the kitty being worked on that make the dongle a thing of the past. When ready to discuss that I will….

MM

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Re: [Avid-L2] Avid Dongle on Apple Silicon (M1 + derivates)

Definitely true, Jeff. But by that definition of wanting to kill off,
John Moore is also correct that Avid has been trying to kill off the
Symphony color corrector. --J.B.

Jeff Sengpiehl wrote:
>
> The deal is Avid has wanted to kill off Dongles for more then a
> decade-   why spend money to work against long term objectives?
>
>
> *Jeff Sengpiehl*
> Chief Technologist
> Key Code Media <http://www.keycodemedia.com/> | 818-303-3900
> <tel:818-303-3900>
> Direct: 818-303-3932 <tel:818-303-3932>
>
> On 2/7/22, 8:35 AM, "Avid-L2@groups.io <mailto:Avid-L2@groups.io> on
> behalf of Jo's Mailinglists"  wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> just wanted to ask the question again:
>
> why could iLok not be a solution for the issue at hand?
>
> fwik ProTools is utilising this technique – could the M1/Monterey
> thing with the Sentinels not be solved if Avid MC et al. moves to iLok
> like ProTools did before?
>
> Honestly: I'd seldomly end up without a ProTools license (web) "on
> site" with no internet rather than on a site editing where there is no
> signal at all.
>
> I'd prefer just "dongle it up" solution than get licenses transferred
> via Avid Link through the interwebs.
>
> So, question is: what's the deal "to code" Avid MC to iLok? Sure it
> will end up with: "send in your Sentinels and get the iLok code" – but
> is that the thing?
>
> It's not like it's been done before, even in the same company?
>
> many cents of mine, just 6 in this thread...
>
>
> Jochen "Jo" Hermann
>
> filter Media Postproduction
>
> Salzburg, Austria
>
>
>
> On 4. Feb 2022, at 17:23, Marianna <marianna.montague@avid.com
> <mailto:marianna.montague@avid.com>> wrote:
>
> Ha John… good comeback.😊
>
> Do you have any idea what the ratio is of dongle to activation out
> there? It's pretty surprising and eye opening. If I was to guess
> and this is my take based on 18 years of supporting them… it is
> asmall #, maybe 15-20% and that's generous. All enterprise has
> moved on for the most part – while a bunch of rentals still have
> dongles - it is generally only individuals such as yourself that
> use them. Revenue streams are part of it….. you are saying we
> should invest a lot of money into dongle compatibility so a small
> percentage of users can use them on Monterey.   They work fine on
> Win and BigSur and lower. It's a small niche and yes it is the
> right call to trump it and use that $ for other functionality and
> features… cloud licensing was one and we have other projects in
> the kitty being worked on that make the dongle a thing of the
> past. When ready to discuss that I will….
>
> MM
>
>

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Re: [Avid-L2] Avid Dongle on Apple Silicon (M1 + derivates)

The deal is Avid has wanted to kill off Dongles for more then a decade- why spend money to work against long term objectives?

Jeff Sengpiehl
Chief Technologist
Key Code Media | 818-303-3900
Direct: 818-303-3932

On 2/7/22, 8:35 AM, "Avid-L2@groups.io on behalf of Jo's Mailinglists" wrote:

Hey all,

just wanted to ask the question again:

why could iLok not be a solution for the issue at hand?

fwik ProTools is utilising this technique – could the M1/Monterey thing with the Sentinels not be solved if Avid MC et al. moves to iLok like ProTools did before?

Honestly: I'd seldomly end up without a ProTools license (web) "on site" with no internet rather than on a site editing where there is no signal at all.

I'd prefer just "dongle it up" solution than get licenses transferred via Avid Link through the interwebs.

So, question is: what's the deal "to code" Avid MC to iLok? Sure it will end up with: "send in your Sentinels and get the iLok code" – but is that the thing?

It's not like it's been done before, even in the same company?

many cents of mine, just 6 in this thread...

Jochen "Jo" Hermann

filter Media Postproduction

Salzburg, Austria

On 4. Feb 2022, at 17:23, Marianna <marianna.montague@avid.com> wrote:

Ha John… good comeback. 😊

Do you have any idea what the ratio is of dongle to activation out there? It's pretty surprising and eye opening. If I was to guess and this is my take based on 18 years of supporting them… it is a small #, maybe 15-20% and that's generous. All enterprise has moved on for the most part – while a bunch of rentals still have dongles - it is generally only individuals such as yourself that use them. Revenue streams are part of it….. you are saying we should invest a lot of money into dongle compatibility so a small percentage of users can use them on Monterey. They work fine on Win and BigSur and lower. It's a small niche and yes it is the right call to trump it and use that $ for other functionality and features… cloud licensing was one and we have other projects in the kitty being worked on that make the dongle a thing of the past. When ready to discuss that I will….

MM

Re: [Avid-L2] Avid Dongle on Apple Silicon (M1 + derivates)

Hey all,

just wanted to ask the question again:

why could iLok not be a solution for the issue at hand?

fwik ProTools is utilising this technique – could the M1/Monterey thing with the Sentinels not be solved if Avid MC et al. moves to iLok like ProTools did before?

Honestly: I'd seldomly end up without a ProTools license (web) "on site" with no internet rather than on a site editing where there is no signal at all.

I'd prefer just "dongle it up" solution than get licenses transferred via Avid Link through the interwebs.

So, question is: what's the deal "to code" Avid MC to iLok? Sure it will end up with: "send in your Sentinels and get the iLok code" – but is that the thing?

It's not like it's been done before, even in the same company?

many cents of mine, just 6 in this thread...

Jochen "Jo" Hermann

filter Media Postproduction

Salzburg, Austria

On 4. Feb 2022, at 17:23, Marianna <marianna.montague@avid.com> wrote:

Ha John… good comeback. 😊
Do you have any idea what the ratio is of dongle to activation out there? It's pretty surprising and eye opening. If I was to guess and this is my take based on 18 years of supporting them… it is a small #, maybe 15-20% and that's generous. All enterprise has moved on for the most part – while a bunch of rentals still have dongles - it is generally only individuals such as yourself that use them. Revenue streams are part of it….. you are saying we should invest a lot of money into dongle compatibility so a small percentage of users can use them on Monterey. They work fine on Win and BigSur and lower. It's a small niche and yes it is the right call to trump it and use that $ for other functionality and features… cloud licensing was one and we have other projects in the kitty being worked on that make the dongle a thing of the past. When ready to discuss that I will….
MM

Re: [Avid-L2] Avid Dongle on Apple Silicon (M1 + derivates)

Let's just say it's very Don to have touted he came up with such a phrase, when he wasn't the one writing the scripts…

On Sun, Feb 6, 2022 at 10:50 PM John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:

In a 2007 interview, LaFontaine explained the strategy behind his signature catchphrase, "in a world where...": We have to very rapidly establish the world we are transporting them to. That's very easily done by saying, "In a world where..." You very rapidly set the scene.

Born: Donald Leroy LaFontaine; August 26, 19...

Other names: Thunder Throat; The Voice of Go...

Occupation: Voice actor

On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 09:29 PM, Mark Spano wrote:

You might have meant the late Hal Douglas, perhaps more famously known for "In a world…"

Especially this one:

https://youtu.be/fVDzuT0fXro

I knew and worked with Hal frequently - a genuinely nice guy. I also worked with Don a few times, let's just say I liked Hal a lot.

On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 11:36 PM John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:

What Avid clearly misses is that my tired old Dinosaur Brain has problems remembering my phone number let alone my Avid license code. Also I have found when I go back into the tar pit every night for some reason my dongle floats to the top so I never lose it. I'm no programmer but if Pan and Zoom was written over a weekend, as legend has it, how long would it take to write a dongle driver? That seems like a pretty rudimentary bit of code to my uneducated in coding brain.

I haven't had too many issues with Adobe Licensing so I'm sure I can survive without a dongle but I like my Sapphire, Resolve and still working Avid dongles. Cue the late Don Lafontaine, "In a world without dongles..." ;-0

It sounds like perhaps this another reason to look to a PC vs. a Mac in the future.

On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 08:23 AM, Marianna wrote:

Ha John… good comeback. 😊

Do you have any idea what the ratio is of dongle to activation out there? It's pretty surprising and eye opening. If I was to guess and this is my take based on 18 years of supporting them… it is a small #, maybe 15-20% and that's generous. All enterprise has moved on for the most part – while a bunch of rentals still have dongles - it is generally only individuals such as yourself that use them. Revenue streams are part of it….. you are saying we should invest a lot of money into dongle compatibility so a small percentage of users can use them on Monterey. They work fine on Win and BigSur and lower. It's a small niche and yes it is the right call to trump it and use that $ for other functionality and features… cloud licensing was one and we have other projects in the kitty being worked on that make the dongle a thing of the past. When ready to discuss that I will….

MM

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Sunday, February 6, 2022

Re: [Avid-L2] Avid Dongle on Apple Silicon (M1 + derivates)

In a 2007 interview, LaFontaine explained the strategy behind his signature catchphrase, "in a world where...": We have to very rapidly establish the world we are transporting them to. That's very easily done by saying, "In a world where..." You very rapidly set the scene.

Born: Donald Leroy LaFontaine; August 26, 19...

Other names: Thunder Throat; The Voice of Go...

Occupation: Voice actor

On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 09:29 PM, Mark Spano wrote:

You might have meant the late Hal Douglas, perhaps more famously known for "In a world…"

Especially this one:

https://youtu.be/fVDzuT0fXro

I knew and worked with Hal frequently - a genuinely nice guy. I also worked with Don a few times, let's just say I liked Hal a lot.

On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 11:36 PM John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:

What Avid clearly misses is that my tired old Dinosaur Brain has problems remembering my phone number let alone my Avid license code. Also I have found when I go back into the tar pit every night for some reason my dongle floats to the top so I never lose it. I'm no programmer but if Pan and Zoom was written over a weekend, as legend has it, how long would it take to write a dongle driver? That seems like a pretty rudimentary bit of code to my uneducated in coding brain.

I haven't had too many issues with Adobe Licensing so I'm sure I can survive without a dongle but I like my Sapphire, Resolve and still working Avid dongles. Cue the late Don Lafontaine, "In a world without dongles..." ;-0

It sounds like perhaps this another reason to look to a PC vs. a Mac in the future.

On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 08:23 AM, Marianna wrote:

Ha John… good comeback. 😊

Do you have any idea what the ratio is of dongle to activation out there? It's pretty surprising and eye opening. If I was to guess and this is my take based on 18 years of supporting them… it is a small #, maybe 15-20% and that's generous. All enterprise has moved on for the most part – while a bunch of rentals still have dongles - it is generally only individuals such as yourself that use them. Revenue streams are part of it….. you are saying we should invest a lot of money into dongle compatibility so a small percentage of users can use them on Monterey. They work fine on Win and BigSur and lower. It's a small niche and yes it is the right call to trump it and use that $ for other functionality and features… cloud licensing was one and we have other projects in the kitty being worked on that make the dongle a thing of the past. When ready to discuss that I will….

MM

Re: [Avid-L2] Avid Dongle on Apple Silicon (M1 + derivates)

Maybe I should start a Dongle Go Fund Me page. ;-)

On Sat, Feb 5, 2022 at 07:29 AM, kenton van natten wrote:

problems remembering my phone number let alone my Avid license code
With Avid Link, I haven't needed to know mine. I may have had to copy/paste it from an email into the activation box once, but after that no brain power is required.

Another plus for SW licensing vs dongles, is that it's much harder for a SW license to grow legs and/or end up in someone's pocket, which is why facilities have likely adopted SW licensing so readily.

Every bit of software or service that I use now is SW based licensing, from BorisFX to Disney+. It's not as scary as you might think.

I'm no programmer but if Pan and Zoom was written over a weekend, as legend has it, how long would it take to write a dongle driver? That seems like a pretty rudimentary bit of code to my uneducated in coding brain.
It could be a question of need : motivation. Writing the code for Pan and Zoom was something that was filling a need for a majority at the time. Writing code for a dongle driver will only benefit a small percentage of end users, and there's testing, support, etc involved after the fact. I could also rebuild the fuel injectors in my car in a weekend, but do I want to? No. I also couldn't tell you the last time I've used Avid Pan and Zoom as there are better options available now. Pan and Zoom may have reportedly been written in a weekend, but it hasn't been updated in 10 yrs at least.

--
kenton van natten, post-production mercenary

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Re: [Avid-L2] Avid Dongle on Apple Silicon (M1 + derivates)

The rumor/legend was that one of the Avid Engineers wanted to do a slide show for some sort of a Personal/Family video. It was written for that over a weekend. Perhaps this is an Urban Legend but I heard it a number of times years ago.

On Sat, Feb 5, 2022 at 07:29 AM, kenton van natten wrote:

problems remembering my phone number let alone my Avid license code
With Avid Link, I haven't needed to know mine. I may have had to copy/paste it from an email into the activation box once, but after that no brain power is required.

Another plus for SW licensing vs dongles, is that it's much harder for a SW license to grow legs and/or end up in someone's pocket, which is why facilities have likely adopted SW licensing so readily.

Every bit of software or service that I use now is SW based licensing, from BorisFX to Disney+. It's not as scary as you might think.

I'm no programmer but if Pan and Zoom was written over a weekend, as legend has it, how long would it take to write a dongle driver? That seems like a pretty rudimentary bit of code to my uneducated in coding brain.
It could be a question of need : motivation. Writing the code for Pan and Zoom was something that was filling a need for a majority at the time. Writing code for a dongle driver will only benefit a small percentage of end users, and there's testing, support, etc involved after the fact. I could also rebuild the fuel injectors in my car in a weekend, but do I want to? No. I also couldn't tell you the last time I've used Avid Pan and Zoom as there are better options available now. Pan and Zoom may have reportedly been written in a weekend, but it hasn't been updated in 10 yrs at least.

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