Re: [Avid-L2] AMA Link heartache in a remote shared environment

I've found at times if I had ama clips offline if I re ama link to the source files then the original offline clips get a nudge and they relink to the files.  It's always a cat and mouse thing.  If you don't have the original file to re ama link to that may not be an option.  Perhaps IIRC  you could consolidate only the linked clips on the sequence to a new mxf folder.  How silly are you for using Avid on a remote project?  Everybody knows Adobe is way better with media management and collaborative workflows!!!  NOT!!!!  :-)

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Re: [Avid-L2] AMA Link heartache in a remote shared environment

This person is averse to being accommodating. They openly hate Media Composer and would prefer to work with PP. And they are related to the producer. Who I probably have to get involved again. This is not the first issue that has come up. I'll be lucky to get the source audio files before next Friday. If ever.

A true nightmare.


Jay


> On Feb 26, 2022, at 7:49 PM, JBeck <jb30343@windstream.net> wrote:
>
> Jay, I've been through this and similar issues many times. Even with
> technically limited editors it's possible to slowly walk them through
> transcoding their sequence. You just need to do it step by step. It's
> more difficult, but still possible, with people who are just averse to
> following instructions. You just sit on the phone with them and break
> it down into little steps. The easiest thing, of course, is if you have
> a way to remote into their computer. Seems like once I had someone use
> Facetime and point their phone at their screen. Good luck. --J.B.
>
> Jay Mahavier via groups.io wrote:
>> I have a complete lack of faith in the ability of this particular
>> remote editor to be accommodating or technically proficient. I'm
>> going to do some more testing on the systems I have direct access to.
>> Maybe I'll figure something out. I was hoping that someone on the L2
>> had already worked this issue out before. I'll post here if I do get
>> something reasonable to work.
>>
>> Jay
>>
>>
>>> On Feb 26, 2022, at 5:59 PM, Frank Felker <FJFelker@gmail.com
>>> <mailto:FJFelker@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Can the remote editor with the AMA links transcode the clips or the
>>> edited sequence to your preferred resolution?
>>> Can they export an AAF of the edited sequence?
>>>
>>> Otherwise, if you get their bins and the original files, you may be
>>> able to re-link to them and then find a way to move those clips into
>>> your desired mxf media format.
>>>
>>> Good luck, let us know what you do.
>>>
>>> frank felker
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 5:59 PM Jay Mahavier via groups.io
>>> <http://groups.io/> <jay_mahavier=icloud.com@groups.io
>>> <mailto:icloud.com@groups.io>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I was really hoping this nightmare wouldn't happen, but alas.
>>>
>>> The setup is 4 different work from home locations. One of them is
>>> very removed in distance. So I have a central location that MXF
>>> media gets loaded to and then each remote station downloads the
>>> media updates. Bins are shared between the different locations
>>> and since it's all Avi MXF media everything just links up and is
>>> online.
>>>
>>> UNTIL…
>>>
>>> After having been explained multiple times that AMA Linking to
>>> media will not work in a remote shared environment, one of the
>>> 'editors' has done exactly what they were told not to do. They
>>> Linked to a bunch of audio.
>>>
>>> So how do I deal with this? Technically, not interpersonally.
>>> What is the solution to get this bin/sequence from them that has
>>> linked audio and then get it converted to Avid MXF media? Can I
>>> import on my end and relink the sequence? Can I batch import? I
>>> mean I've tried some of this and it has not worked, but maybe I'm
>>> doing it wrong. I rarely deal with AMA linking and when I do
>>> it's very specific and on single workstations, no sharing.
>>>
>>> Do I have to get the original files from them, import them and
>>> re-edit all the audio, and reset all the levels on the clips? I
>>> mean if I have to I will, but just wondering if there was a less
>>> soul crushing way to get it done.
>>>
>>> The remote editors are on v2018. I have access to v2018 and v2021.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Jay
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Avid-L2] AMA Link heartache in a remote shared environment

Jay,  I've been through this and similar issues many times.  Even with
technically limited editors it's possible to slowly walk them through
transcoding their sequence.  You just need to do it step by step.  It's
more difficult, but still possible, with people who are just averse to
following instructions.  You just sit on the phone with them and break
it down into little steps. The easiest thing, of course, is if you have
a way to remote into their computer.  Seems like once I had someone use
Facetime and point their phone at their screen.  Good luck.  --J.B.

Jay Mahavier via groups.io wrote:
> I have a complete lack of faith in the ability of this particular
> remote editor to be accommodating or technically proficient.  I'm
> going to do some more testing on the systems I have direct access to.
>  Maybe I'll figure something out.  I was hoping that someone on the L2
> had already worked this issue out before.  I'll post here if I do get
> something reasonable to work.
>
> Jay
>
>
>> On Feb 26, 2022, at 5:59 PM, Frank Felker <FJFelker@gmail.com
>> <mailto:FJFelker@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Can the remote editor with the AMA links transcode the clips or the
>> edited sequence to your preferred resolution?
>> Can they export an AAF of the edited sequence?
>>
>> Otherwise, if you get their bins and the original files, you may be
>> able to re-link to them and then find a way to move those clips into
>> your desired mxf media format.
>>
>> Good luck, let us know what you do.
>>
>> frank felker
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 5:59 PM Jay Mahavier via groups.io
>> <http://groups.io/> <jay_mahavier=icloud.com@groups.io
>> <mailto:icloud.com@groups.io>> wrote:
>>
>> I was really hoping this nightmare wouldn't happen, but alas.
>>
>> The setup is 4 different work from home locations. One of them is
>> very removed in distance.  So I have a central location that MXF
>> media gets loaded to and then each remote station downloads the
>> media updates. Bins are shared between the different locations
>> and since it's all Avi MXF media everything just links up and is
>> online.
>>
>> UNTIL…
>>
>> After having been explained multiple times that AMA Linking to
>> media will not work in a remote shared environment, one of the
>> 'editors' has done exactly what they were told not to do.  They
>> Linked to a bunch of audio.
>>
>> So how do I deal with this?  Technically, not interpersonally. 
>> What is the solution to get this bin/sequence from them that has
>> linked audio and then get it converted to Avid MXF media?  Can I
>> import on my end and relink the sequence?  Can I batch import? I
>> mean I've tried some of this and it has not worked, but maybe I'm
>> doing it wrong.  I rarely deal with AMA linking and when I do
>> it's very specific and on single workstations, no sharing.
>>
>> Do I have to get the original files from them, import them and
>> re-edit all the audio, and reset all the levels on the clips?  I
>> mean if I have to I will, but just wondering if there was a less
>> soul crushing way to get it done.
>>
>> The remote editors are on v2018.  I have access to v2018 and v2021.
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Jay
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>




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Re: [Avid-L2] AMA Link heartache in a remote shared environment

I've screwed that up many times - but not on a project where we're working simultaneously- but on one that I'm handing over to another editor, or adding in a second editor.   Tons of stuff is AMA'd and it doesn't show up when the sequence is transferred. 

 'Relink to file' seems to work in almost all cases, but each editor would probably need the source file.

It used to be that you could just alt-drag-and-drop the offending file into a new 'temp' bin in the duplicate project, and the original AMA would magically also be relinked, but that doesn't really seem to work anymore??

GH

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On Feb 26, 2022, at 17:14, Jay Mahavier via groups.io <jay_mahavier=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

 I have a complete lack of faith in the ability of this particular remote editor to be accommodating or technically proficient.  I'm going to do some more testing on the systems I have direct access to.  Maybe I'll figure something out.  I was hoping that someone on the L2 had already worked this issue out before.  I'll post here if I do get something reasonable to work.

Jay

On Feb 26, 2022, at 5:59 PM, Frank Felker <FJFelker@gmail.com> wrote:

Can the remote editor with the AMA links transcode the clips or the edited sequence to your preferred resolution?

Can they export an AAF of the edited sequence?

Otherwise, if you get their bins and the original files, you may be able to re-link to them and then find a way to move those clips into your desired mxf media format.

Good luck, let us know what you do.

frank felker

On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 5:59 PM Jay Mahavier via groups.io <jay_mahavier=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

I was really hoping this nightmare wouldn't happen, but alas.

The setup is 4 different work from home locations.  One of them is very removed in distance.  So I have a central location that MXF media gets loaded to and then each remote station downloads the media updates.  Bins are shared between the different locations and since it's all Avi MXF media everything just links up and is online. 

UNTIL…

After having been explained multiple times that AMA Linking to media will not work in a remote shared environment, one of the 'editors' has done exactly what they were told not to do.  They Linked to a bunch of audio. 

So how do I deal with this?  Technically, not interpersonally.  What is the solution to get this bin/sequence from them that has linked audio and then get it converted to Avid MXF media?  Can I import on my end and relink the sequence?  Can I batch import?  I mean I've tried some of this and it has not worked, but maybe I'm doing it wrong.  I rarely deal with AMA linking and when I do it's very specific and on single workstations, no sharing.

Do I have to get the original files from them, import them and re-edit all the audio, and reset all the levels on the clips?  I mean if I have to I will, but just wondering if there was a less soul crushing way to get it done.

The remote editors are on v2018.  I have access to v2018 and v2021.


Thank you,
Jay

Re: [Avid-L2] AMA Link heartache in a remote shared environment

I have a complete lack of faith in the ability of this particular remote editor to be accommodating or technically proficient.  I'm going to do some more testing on the systems I have direct access to.  Maybe I'll figure something out.  I was hoping that someone on the L2 had already worked this issue out before.  I'll post here if I do get something reasonable to work.

Jay

On Feb 26, 2022, at 5:59 PM, Frank Felker <FJFelker@gmail.com> wrote:

Can the remote editor with the AMA links transcode the clips or the edited sequence to your preferred resolution?

Can they export an AAF of the edited sequence?

Otherwise, if you get their bins and the original files, you may be able to re-link to them and then find a way to move those clips into your desired mxf media format.

Good luck, let us know what you do.

frank felker

On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 5:59 PM Jay Mahavier via groups.io <jay_mahavier=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

I was really hoping this nightmare wouldn't happen, but alas.

The setup is 4 different work from home locations.  One of them is very removed in distance.  So I have a central location that MXF media gets loaded to and then each remote station downloads the media updates.  Bins are shared between the different locations and since it's all Avi MXF media everything just links up and is online. 

UNTIL…

After having been explained multiple times that AMA Linking to media will not work in a remote shared environment, one of the 'editors' has done exactly what they were told not to do.  They Linked to a bunch of audio. 

So how do I deal with this?  Technically, not interpersonally.  What is the solution to get this bin/sequence from them that has linked audio and then get it converted to Avid MXF media?  Can I import on my end and relink the sequence?  Can I batch import?  I mean I've tried some of this and it has not worked, but maybe I'm doing it wrong.  I rarely deal with AMA linking and when I do it's very specific and on single workstations, no sharing.

Do I have to get the original files from them, import them and re-edit all the audio, and reset all the levels on the clips?  I mean if I have to I will, but just wondering if there was a less soul crushing way to get it done.

The remote editors are on v2018.  I have access to v2018 and v2021.


Thank you,
Jay

Re: [Avid-L2] AMA Link heartache in a remote shared environment

Can the remote editor with the AMA links transcode the clips or the edited sequence to your preferred resolution?

Can they export an AAF of the edited sequence?

Otherwise, if you get their bins and the original files, you may be able to re-link to them and then find a way to move those clips into your desired mxf media format.

Good luck, let us know what you do.

frank felker

On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 5:59 PM Jay Mahavier via groups.io <jay_mahavier=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

I was really hoping this nightmare wouldn't happen, but alas.

The setup is 4 different work from home locations.  One of them is very removed in distance.  So I have a central location that MXF media gets loaded to and then each remote station downloads the media updates.  Bins are shared between the different locations and since it's all Avi MXF media everything just links up and is online. 

UNTIL…

After having been explained multiple times that AMA Linking to media will not work in a remote shared environment, one of the 'editors' has done exactly what they were told not to do.  They Linked to a bunch of audio. 

So how do I deal with this?  Technically, not interpersonally.  What is the solution to get this bin/sequence from them that has linked audio and then get it converted to Avid MXF media?  Can I import on my end and relink the sequence?  Can I batch import?  I mean I've tried some of this and it has not worked, but maybe I'm doing it wrong.  I rarely deal with AMA linking and when I do it's very specific and on single workstations, no sharing.

Do I have to get the original files from them, import them and re-edit all the audio, and reset all the levels on the clips?  I mean if I have to I will, but just wondering if there was a less soul crushing way to get it done.

The remote editors are on v2018.  I have access to v2018 and v2021.


Thank you,
Jay

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[Avid-L2] AMA Link heartache in a remote shared environment

I was really hoping this nightmare wouldn't happen, but alas.

The setup is 4 different work from home locations. One of them is very removed in distance. So I have a central location that MXF media gets loaded to and then each remote station downloads the media updates. Bins are shared between the different locations and since it's all Avi MXF media everything just links up and is online.

UNTIL…

After having been explained multiple times that AMA Linking to media will not work in a remote shared environment, one of the 'editors' has done exactly what they were told not to do. They Linked to a bunch of audio.

So how do I deal with this? Technically, not interpersonally. What is the solution to get this bin/sequence from them that has linked audio and then get it converted to Avid MXF media? Can I import on my end and relink the sequence? Can I batch import? I mean I've tried some of this and it has not worked, but maybe I'm doing it wrong. I rarely deal with AMA linking and when I do it's very specific and on single workstations, no sharing.

Do I have to get the original files from them, import them and re-edit all the audio, and reset all the levels on the clips? I mean if I have to I will, but just wondering if there was a less soul crushing way to get it done.

The remote editors are on v2018. I have access to v2018 and v2021.


Thank you,
Jay



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Re: [Avid-L2] Media Mover and Catalina

Look for MDVx. It’s very good. While at the website look at BlendX as well. 

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Re: [Avid-L2] Media Mover and Catalina

I downloaded and installed MDV yesterday on my Catalina system and it works great. 
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Re: [Avid-L2] Media Mover and Catalina

Thanks!!

Lou Wirth Productions
3210 Kerner Boulevard
Suite 302
San Rafael, CA 94901
www.louwirth.com
415-706-8992p

On Feb 25, 2022, at 1:39 PM, Benjamin Hershleder <Ben@ContactBen.com> wrote:

Hi Lou,

While I was trying to remember the name of Project Parking

(https://marquisbroadcast.com/products/avid-storage-management/project-parking/)

I stumbled on a reference to "MDV." Some info here:

https://www.provideocoalition.com/useful-tools-for-editors-here-comes-the-sun-edition-after-the-oscars-edition/

Possibly one of these will do the trick? 

Cheers,

Benjamin

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On Feb 25, 2022, at 4:16 PM, Lou Wirth <loutv@mindspring.com> wrote:

I was forced to upgrade to Catalinna (against my protests) due to compatibility with an edit pool on a project),  Now, as I feared, QT 7pro is gone along with Streamclip and Media Mover.  I see Media mover is no longer available.  Random video sent me an installer but it will not open in Catalina.  Does anyone have a solution for this?   If not Media Mover, what?

thanks

Lou

Lou Wirth Productions
3210 Kerner Boulevard
Suite 302
San Rafael, CA 94901
www.louwirth.com
415-706-8992p

On Feb 25, 2022, at 6:51 AM, danlist@bestmail.us wrote:

Greetings very quiet Avid-L,

Anyone working in Mac OS 12.2.1 with MC 2021.12.0?

I realize it isn't officially blessed. I missed the upgrade form 12.0 to 12.1 and that installer doesn't seem to be available anywhere any more (even to the Apple Support folks apparently.)

Any predictions/rumors as to when the release of a 2022 version of MC will take place?

Thanks,

D.

Re: [Avid-L2] Media Mover and Catalina

Hi Lou,

While I was trying to remember the name of Project Parking

(https://marquisbroadcast.com/products/avid-storage-management/project-parking/)

I stumbled on a reference to "MDV." Some info here:

https://www.provideocoalition.com/useful-tools-for-editors-here-comes-the-sun-edition-after-the-oscars-edition/

Possibly one of these will do the trick? 

Cheers,

Benjamin

————————

Benjamin Hershleder

ContactBen.com

On Feb 25, 2022, at 4:16 PM, Lou Wirth <loutv@mindspring.com> wrote:

I was forced to upgrade to Catalinna (against my protests) due to compatibility with an edit pool on a project),  Now, as I feared, QT 7pro is gone along with Streamclip and Media Mover.  I see Media mover is no longer available.  Random video sent me an installer but it will not open in Catalina.  Does anyone have a solution for this?   If not Media Mover, what?

thanks

Lou

Lou Wirth Productions
3210 Kerner Boulevard
Suite 302
San Rafael, CA 94901
www.louwirth.com
415-706-8992p

On Feb 25, 2022, at 6:51 AM, danlist@bestmail.us wrote:

Greetings very quiet Avid-L,

Anyone working in Mac OS 12.2.1 with MC 2021.12.0?

I realize it isn't officially blessed. I missed the upgrade form 12.0 to 12.1 and that installer doesn't seem to be available anywhere any more (even to the Apple Support folks apparently.)

Any predictions/rumors as to when the release of a 2022 version of MC will take place?

Thanks,

D.

[Avid-L2] Media Mover and Catalina

I was forced to upgrade to Catalinna (against my protests) due to compatibility with an edit pool on a project),  Now, as I feared, QT 7pro is gone along with Streamclip and Media Mover.  I see Media mover is no longer available.  Random video sent me an installer but it will not open in Catalina.  Does anyone have a solution for this?   If not Media Mover, what?

thanks

Lou

Lou Wirth Productions
3210 Kerner Boulevard
Suite 302
San Rafael, CA 94901
www.louwirth.com
415-706-8992p

On Feb 25, 2022, at 6:51 AM, danlist@bestmail.us wrote:

Greetings very quiet Avid-L,

Anyone working in Mac OS 12.2.1 with MC 2021.12.0?

I realize it isn't officially blessed. I missed the upgrade form 12.0 to 12.1 and that installer doesn't seem to be available anywhere any more (even to the Apple Support folks apparently.)

Any predictions/rumors as to when the release of a 2022 version of MC will take place?

Thanks,

D.

[Avid-L2] Monterey 12.2.1

Greetings very quiet Avid-L,

Anyone working in Mac OS 12.2.1 with MC 2021.12.0?

I realize it isn't officially blessed. I missed the upgrade form 12.0 to 12.1 and that installer doesn't seem to be available anywhere any more (even to the Apple Support folks apparently.)

Any predictions/rumors as to when the release of a 2022 version of MC will take place?

Thanks,

D.

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