For one cable network I do shows for the credit bed template has credits in the lower 3rd so far out of safe title it's funny. Their template has credits that rest right on safe action at the bottom.
--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Craig Rutledge <crutledge@...> wrote:
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> I've seen up to roughly 10% cropped as well. Wasn't 93% the SMPTE spec released in the last year or so for HD. Most TV's including lcd's and crt's do crop, mask, or overscan a bit of the picture and they are not all the same amount. Just today I've seen several things that didn't fully make onscreen. Where I work our programming goes to cable VOD, web, DVD, standards conversion for broadcasting in other countries, etc. Sticking to safe areas is important in order to make sure we are seen properly no matter the conversion or distribution. I've had to reject things from in and out of house because they didn't maintain safe areas.
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> From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] on behalf of Christian Foerster [public@...]
> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 12:27 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] PBS Safe Action/Safe Title Specs?
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> Many TVs crop off 10% of the image when set to factory settings, so (sadly)
> 90% action safe is as valid as ever.
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> Big distributors of Web content also crop off a certain amount of the
> TV-originated image when encoding it for the web.
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> Bye, Christian
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> On May 19, 2012 1:32 PM, "Steve Hullfish" <steve4lists@...> wrote:
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> > I think that was the NTSC 4:3 title safe. I think that was more necessary
> > because TVs from back in YOUR day :-) needed a lot more "safety." TVs were
> > set up so that even if there were low power situations the viewer would
> > never see the edges of the picture. (When there was lower power delivered
> > to the TV, the picture would shrink.)
> >
> > With modern TVs, I don't think this happens, so they need much less
> > "safety." I looked at the other specs from some of the other broadcasters
> > and PBS seems to be the widest in respect to safe title and safe action.
> > I've also seen 90 and 85. Personally, with modern TVs, 90% and 93% might be
> > pretty generous actually. I wouldn't doubt that it could come down to 95%
> > for BOTH in reality. Also, with all of the repurposing of programming to
> > the web, there's no reason to have safe title at all on that content, so
> > unless you want to produce two versions, the less safe title the better -
> > by that I mean the less DIFFERENCE between full raster and safe title...
> > actually the BIGGER safe title is the better.
> >
> > It may also have to do with old power to the transmitters and whatever
> > that would do to the signal. With digital transmission, that may have also
> > gone away. I have no idea about that, though.
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> >
> > Steve Hullfish
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> > On May 19, 2012, at 1:08 AM, John Moore wrote:
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> > > PBS Safe Action/Safe Title Specs?
> > > From the PBS TOS-1 2010 Edition:
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> > > 2.3.4 The Safe Areas are:
> > > 2.3.4.1 Safe Action is the area within which all signification action
> > must be contained. The area is 93% of the width and height of the
> > production aperture.
> > > 2.3.4.2 Safe Title Area is the area within which all significant text
> > must be contained. The area is 90% of the width and height of the
> > production aperture.
> > > 2.3.5 Open Captions are limited to 80% of the width and 80% of the
> > height of a 4:3 protected area (when there is a 4:3 protected area).
> > >
> > > Have I had it wrong for the last 30ish years? I always thought Safe
> > Action 10% in and Safe Title 20% in. What am I missing here?
> > > John Moore
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