Thursday, June 30, 2011

Re: [Avid-L2] Re: The FCPX thread

 

Wow Rupert. Thanks!

However any statements like that directed towards me make me wonder if you are a
good judge of character.

Sensible, articulate and professional are not on the list of terms I usually
hear. Decency prevents me from repeating the most frequent comments.

Although, I'm printing your post now and handing it out to our staff.

There are some genuinely bright and intelligent people on this list. Yourself
included.
C.A.M.
RTVF

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From: Rupert Watson <rupert@root6.com>
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, June 30, 2011 2:51:27 PM
Subject: RE: [Avid-L2] Re: The FCPX thread

Chris

You are one of the most sensible, articulate and professional contributors on
this list; respect!

Rupert Watson

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From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
chris magid
Sent: 30 June 2011 19:10
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: The FCPX thread

Adobe CS5.5 is a much better choice for folks that love FCP.

A critical reason is plug in support and plug in architecture. There are many
useful plug-ins which simply cannot be used via AVX. A ton. Most of the Red
Giant stuff is FCP and Adobe ONLY. If folks like the plug-ins they have under
FCP, they may disappointed with Avid.

I sent a lot of emails to plug in developers begging for AVX versions of things
like Red Giant Denoiser, which is absolutely stunning. But an AVX version ain't
happening.

There are also issues with open format support which Avid only tickles through
AMA. Same goes for true and versatile 10bit, 4:4:4 or greater video support.

Also, CS5.5 is more likely to support their existing video card and other
hardware. In addition to the high likely hood that they can get video out from
After Effects and Photoshop, much like they could with Motion. Which Avid can't
do.

Tight integration with After Effects is another plus. It is also complete suite
with Photoshop and Encore.

Honestly we have to assess peoples needs and workflows in good faith and make
sensible recommendations. We shouldn't just be homers for the tools we use.

For those users that have criticisms of FCP items which Composer dose well, then

Composer may be a good choice.

But for those that lament the loss of the FCP they love, then Premiere through
CS 5.5 is a better bet.

FCPX's perceived failure has not made Composer better. Winning by attrition is
not really winning. The goal is to advance the capabilities, quality and
usefulness of our tools. Avid still has much work to do and should be very
concerned about the first impression they make with any new customers.

This isn't some simple contest to see how many folks we can friend on Facebook.

Much of the behavior and ballyhooing I've seen online from industry notables
bares a striking resemblance to their own criticism of kool-aid drinkers and fan

boys of other trendy production products.

Personally I think there is a foundation in FCPX which could grow to be
something nice.

Avid has yet to re-tool composer from the ground up as Apple just did with FCPX.

It is something which has been needed for years. The upcoming 64bit version may
not be much beyond a port AT FIRST as there are hints that long standing core
issues and criticisms will not be addressed in the initial 6.x.

C.A.M
RTVF

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From: Terence Curren <tcurren@aol.com <mailto:tcurren%40aol.com> >
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, June 30, 2011 11:50:50 AM
Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: The FCPX thread

You are talking to the wrong people here. You need to be convincing the FCP
users out there. And the former Avid users who went to FCP. That is what Adobe
is doing very effectively right this instant.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com> , "Rupert
Watson" <rupert@...> wrote:

<<So far, I have not seen the same level of commitment from Adobe and I have
heard NOTHING about their support dept. How does that work? Do they pay for
people to take support calls about the software or have they followed the Apple
model? >>

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