Brilliant.
So for any mixed codec sequences, I'll export reference QTs - and then create actual QTs in Sorenson Squeeze or MPEG Streamclip.
Yes, the tape original DV25 stuff will be conformed at original HD res in online.
Thanks for the help, Nick.
--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Frank Capria <frank@...> wrote:
>
> Answers inline.
> Frank Capria
> (508) 709 9212
> www.capria.tv
>
>
> On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 2:48 PM, nick_ravich <nick_ravich@...> wrote:
>
> > Many thanks Frank.
> >
> > So I'm right in thinking that if I go the consolidate option, I'll still
> > need to transcode the consolidated tapeless original media if I'm looking to
> > export?
> >
>
> No, both XDCAM and DVCPRO can be exported natively from Media Composer. The
> rub is that when you export a sequence, it has to be of a single codec
> unless it is a QT reference export. At some point, you'll need to get the
> DV25 stuff to an HD format I assume.
>
>
> >
> > If so, wondering what's the smartest/easiest way to do transcode given that
> > 1) in all likelihood I'll have tape and tape-less original media in any
> > given seq (ie I'll already have DV25 MXF media in the the seq) and so don't
> > want to "over" transcode; 2) in all likelihood as the offline progresses
> > we'll be exporting var cutdowns and revisions of the same basic seq (ie last
> > ver of exportable seq will have previously transcoded media.) So I guess
> > what I'm really asking is, what's the most efficient way that I can
> > transcode w/o accumulating a lot of repeated transcodes and using up storage
> > space.
> >
>
> Assuming you're exporting to QuickTime, there will be no new clips created
> in Media Composer. If you are exporting too AAF you can either link to or
> embed the media to avoid transcoding.
>
> >
> > Thanks, Nick.
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Frank Capria <frank@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Nick,
> > >
> > > You're right on the pros and cons of consolidate and transcode. Since you
> > > are doing a conform later, there's not a lot to be gained by converting
> > to
> > > another codec during the traditional offline process. It appears
> > consolidate
> > > is the way to go. Both XDCAM 35 and DVCPRO HD perform quite well in Media
> > > Composer.
> > >
> > >
> > > Frank Capria
> > > (508) 709 9212
> > > www.capria.tv
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 12:56 PM, nick_ravich <nick_ravich@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello-
> > > >
> > > > Running MC 5.03 on a couple of Nehalem duo quad core Mac Pros, 10.6.5
> > OS.
> > > > Media stored on FW800 connected G-tech external drives.
> > > >
> > > > I'm responsible for post workflow on a long form documentary project.
> > 100+
> > > > hours of footage, primarily tape-based 1080 60i DVCPro HD footage
> > (dumped to
> > > > DVcam for capturing purposes), but with growing minority of 1080 60i
> > DVCPro
> > > > HD P2 & XDcam EX 35 mpbs stuff as well. Gets whittled down to 4 total
> > hours
> > > > of broadcast programming. Upgraded to MC 5 last Fall and was very
> > excited
> > > > about possibilities of AMA for the tapeless workflow.
> > > >
> > > > So brought in the DVcam downconverts as DV25 MXF media - traditional
> > tape
> > > > capture - and all the tapeless as AMA volume link from external drives.
> > No
> > > > consolidating, no transcoding (we do a later out of house online
> > > > conform/upres - more on that later.) Nice and easy.
> > > >
> > > > But editors have finally come in and we're beginning to see serious
> > > > peformance issues with extended AMA-linked media sequences (by the end
> > of
> > > > the project we'll have at least 4 hour long pic lock sequences that'll
> > be a
> > > > mix of tape capture and tapeless.) And after reading further on this
> > forum,
> > > > realize I need to at least consolidate if not transcode the AMA linked
> > > > material if I don't want to drive the editors and myself crazy by the
> > end of
> > > > the offline.
> > > >
> > > > So my big question is - should I consolidate or transcode?
> > Consolidation
> > > > is attractive bec/ it's really just an in-Avid version of what I'm
> > doing
> > > > anyway at the finder level, ie transfering media from original cam
> > cards or
> > > > field drives to Avid-connected "working" drives. And I assume it'll
> > take
> > > > the same amount of time as a finder level transfer (BTW - currently for
> > any
> > > > shoot I have the media on 3 separate drives, one being a directly
> > mounted
> > > > "working" drive, the drive from which we do the AMA volume linking.)
> > And
> > > > it seems like it's Avidifying the media in a way that will help with
> > the
> > > > perf slow downs and crashes. My question is - what is actually
> > happening to
> > > > that media when it's being consolidated? It's still the original P2 or
> > > > XDcam EX material, just dropped in a new Avid-created folder structure?
> > And
> > > > since it's not transcoded, since it's still in its native state,
> > presumably
> > > > it still needs to be tanscoded to some kind of Avid media codec in
> > order to
> > > > be exported from var rough and fine cut sequences we'll be making along
> > the
> > > > way (not a small deal since we'll be doing a lot of exports thru the
> > course
> > > > of the offline)?
> > > >
> > > > Transcode is less attractive since I assume it'll take more time (since
> > the
> > > > big bulk of footage is DV25 MXF, assuming I'd transcode everything to
> > that
> > > > and made all media one codec), and I'll lose the option of viewing
> > media as
> > > > HD, but seems like the most rock solid way of managing media. And I
> > won't
> > > > have to transcoded when exporting from sequences.
> > > >
> > > > Also, curious if 5.5 makes any of the above easier?
> > > >
> > > > Other factor is that we'll be later up-res.ing at our online house.
> > > > Presumably consolidating makes that a non-issue - since media is
> > already
> > > > full-res. But if I transcode then I'll need to re-link. Been reading
> > a lot
> > > > of related posts in the forum and think I have a handle on what to do
> > and
> > > > not to for re-link, particularly re both drive level and in-Avid
> > > > naming/labeling and how that's going to effect re-linking. If I
> > transcode,
> > > > one excellent suggestion I read was that I create a new bin column
> > > > specifically to indicate exactly where the original/up res.ed media
> > lives.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Nick.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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