1969: 14 years old, living in Warner Robing, Georgia. Dad took me to
2001 A Space Odyssey. Great movie going experience. Dad asked me if I
understood it. I replied, no but I liked it.
1971: Still living in Georgia. Practicing my math skills by
calculating how many people we could pack in a given car for a trip to
the Drive In. It was important to factor in room for enough beer for
the number of people. Great movie going experience. Lousy sound, even
though they must have had to replace about half of the window mount
speakers every week.
1973: Living in Omaha, Nebraska. Mom and I went to see Blazing
Saddles. Great movie going experience even though my mom (a New York
native) and I were the only ones who laughed at many of the great lines.
1975: Living in Lincoln, Nebraska. All but one of the movie theaters
in town got rid of their union projectionists. Films were fed through
the projector from big platters. The kid who made popcorn became the
projectionist. Focus became optional. Many bad movie going experiences
to follow.
1979: Timed a trip to LA to coincide with Apocalypse Now playing at the
Cineramadome. A great movie going experience. Still have the credit
booklet they passed out to the audience.
1980's: VHS taught people to watch movies at home. They learned it was
OK to talk while they watched. They realized the little multi screen
mall movie houses were the same size as their living room so it must be
OK to talk there too. Theaters responded with louder sound systems.
Focus still optional.
1990's - Present: The trend continues. No longer sure if the focus
problem is the projector or my aging eyes.
--J.B.
Shirley Gutierrez wrote:
>
> Good for you for walking out! I've given up on any big chain or multiplex theater going, if for no other reason than the abusive, imbecile action trailers. I went to see "No Country For Old Men" and was treated to five trailers for horror/action/fantasy/adventure (i.e - teenage boy movies) for about fifteen minutes. They were so loud I literally had to cover my ears. Then the feature started, with that medium wide shot of highway and prairie that opens the movie, and the print was so scratched that for a second I thought it was some cheesy pseudo-archival effect. I had gotten to the point of wondering what the hell had happened to the Cohen brothers when it started to clear up, and I understood that the hideously scratched print was simply another gesture of complete contempt directed at the theater audience.
>
> Shirley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Terence Curren <tcurren@aol.com>
> To: FinalCutPro-L@yahoogroups.com; Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sun, Dec 5, 2010 11:39 am
> Subject: [Avid-L2] OT: AMC theater's new scam
>
> Took the family to AMC to see a movie yesterday and was introduced to the AMC
> theater chain's new money grabbing scheme. They have what they call the
> "Enhanced Theater Experience" which actually means they are charging you 4
> dollars more per ticket. What do you get for that? According to their press
> release:
>
> "ETX includes a 20-percent larger screen, 3D technology, digital projection and
> an upgraded sound system. "
>
> Okay, this movie was not in 3D, and a bigger screen should mean you sit farther
> away, but these are existing cracker box theaters so that isn't going to happen.
> And the "upgraded sound system" is twice as many speakers with higher wattage.
> In other words, either their sound systems were already sub par, or they will
> now make sure you leave the theater deaf.
>
> This blatant rip-off is just another reason that they are going to kill
> themselves by ensuring folks stay home to watch movies.
>
> And yes, I refused to pay the extortion fee and went to another theater chain to
> see the movie.
>
> Terence Curren
> Burbank, CA
>
> www.alphadogs.tv
> www.digitalservicestation.com
>
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Re: [Avid-L2] OT: AMC theater's new scam
[Avid-L2] Re: [FCP-L] Looking For Recommendations for Web Video Technology (OT)
Maybe check out some software like like Visual Communicator Pro:
http://www.adobe.com/products/visualcommunicator/
Or hire a good camera person to light and shoot the guy in his office
and then have the camera person ship the tapes or cards (or a hard
drive) to you. Via iSight or whatever, you could remotely listen/look
in on (or Direct) the shoot to make sure you're getting what you need
to edit and deliver. If the client can get things organized enough to
gang the weekly videos into a single day of production, maybe you'd
only need to hire the photographer once a month.
If the client can't afford a camera op to light and shoot him, then
hire Bob to just shoot him.
Jim
Re: [Avid-L2] Re: EDL Manager Won't Open
Had the same issues with 5.0.3.4 - EDL and Media Log crashed on
Launch. Back then I reverted the Helper Apps to the original 5.0.3
then they worked. When it came installing 5.0.35 I de-installed
everything but this time after installing everything I started EVERY
app logged in as root (I am always de- and installing as root) then I
logged in with my administrator-account for editing and everything
works well in 5.0.3.5 too
Hope this helps
kindest regards
julie
(on MacOS X 10.6.4)
Am 06.12.2010 um 00:34 schrieb David Dodson:
>
> I mistyped. I meant to say that we were on MC5.0.3 then back-
> versioned to MC4. I REALLY mistyped!
>
>
>
> On Dec 5, 2010, at 3:31 PM, johnrobmoore wrote:
>
>> I'm confused, your original post said problems with 5.0.3 edl
>> manager not launching. Did you mean to say mc 5.0.3 in your latest
>> post? If you are on 3.0.5 you could go up to 3.1.3 or 3.1.4 with
>> the same dongle if IIRC.
>>
>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, David Dodson <davidadodson@...>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> We're on Macs. In a spirit of research, my asst editor back-
>>> versioned from MC3.0.5 to MC2 and guess what -- it worked. So the
>>> leading theory is that it's broken (with the L2-suggested
>>> workarounds) in MC3.x. Silly.
>>>
>>> Thanks, everyone, for al your help and advice!
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 5, 2010, at 3:01 PM, johnrobmoore wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oliver had mentioned that in the previous thread but being the
>>>> devil may car kinda guy on my last update I clicked them all and
>>>> it seems to have worked so far. I should say all I did was make
>>>> sure that edl manager launched but haven't used it for any real
>>>> work so perhaps more will be revealed down the line. Prior to
>>>> these threads I'd always added the helper app after installing
>>>> MCsoft and it worked then. I'm on a mac so there may be a
>>>> difference in the PC experience that I'm not aware of.
>>>>
>>>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Roger Shufflebottom <rogshuff@>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I recall that at some point, Avid said to install EDL Manager
>>>>> before installing the editing application. Not sure if that
>>>>> still holds.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5 Dec 2010, at 02:14, oliverpetersvidy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I concur with John's advice. Same experience on my end.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Oliver
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> With best wishes.
>>>>> Roger Shufflebottom
>>>>> +44 7974 543 660
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> David Dodson
>>> davidadodson@...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: EDL Manager Won't Open
On Dec 5, 2010, at 3:31 PM, johnrobmoore wrote:
> I'm confused, your original post said problems with 5.0.3 edl manager not launching. Did you mean to say mc 5.0.3 in your latest post? If you are on 3.0.5 you could go up to 3.1.3 or 3.1.4 with the same dongle if IIRC.
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, David Dodson <davidadodson@...> wrote:
> >
> > We're on Macs. In a spirit of research, my asst editor back-versioned from MC3.0.5 to MC2 and guess what -- it worked. So the leading theory is that it's broken (with the L2-suggested workarounds) in MC3.x. Silly.
> >
> > Thanks, everyone, for al your help and advice!
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> > On Dec 5, 2010, at 3:01 PM, johnrobmoore wrote:
> >
> > > Oliver had mentioned that in the previous thread but being the devil may car kinda guy on my last update I clicked them all and it seems to have worked so far. I should say all I did was make sure that edl manager launched but haven't used it for any real work so perhaps more will be revealed down the line. Prior to these threads I'd always added the helper app after installing MCsoft and it worked then. I'm on a mac so there may be a difference in the PC experience that I'm not aware of.
> > >
> > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Roger Shufflebottom <rogshuff@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I recall that at some point, Avid said to install EDL Manager before installing the editing application. Not sure if that still holds.
> > > >
> > > > On 5 Dec 2010, at 02:14, oliverpetersvidy wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I concur with John's advice. Same experience on my end.
> > > > >
> > > > > - Oliver
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > With best wishes.
> > > > Roger Shufflebottom
> > > > +44 7974 543 660
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > David Dodson
> > davidadodson@...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
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[Avid-L2] Re: EDL Manager Won't Open
I'm confused, your original post said problems with 5.0.3 edl manager not launching. Did you mean to say mc 5.0.3 in your latest post? If you are on 3.0.5 you could go up to 3.1.3 or 3.1.4 with the same dongle if IIRC.
--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, David Dodson <davidadodson@...> wrote:
>
> We're on Macs. In a spirit of research, my asst editor back-versioned from MC3.0.5 to MC2 and guess what -- it worked. So the leading theory is that it's broken (with the L2-suggested workarounds) in MC3.x. Silly.
>
> Thanks, everyone, for al your help and advice!
>
> David
>
>
> On Dec 5, 2010, at 3:01 PM, johnrobmoore wrote:
>
> > Oliver had mentioned that in the previous thread but being the devil may car kinda guy on my last update I clicked them all and it seems to have worked so far. I should say all I did was make sure that edl manager launched but haven't used it for any real work so perhaps more will be revealed down the line. Prior to these threads I'd always added the helper app after installing MCsoft and it worked then. I'm on a mac so there may be a difference in the PC experience that I'm not aware of.
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Roger Shufflebottom <rogshuff@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I recall that at some point, Avid said to install EDL Manager before installing the editing application. Not sure if that still holds.
> > >
> > > On 5 Dec 2010, at 02:14, oliverpetersvidy wrote:
> > >
> > > > I concur with John's advice. Same experience on my end.
> > > >
> > > > - Oliver
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > With best wishes.
> > > Roger Shufflebottom
> > > +44 7974 543 660
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
>
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[Avid-L2] Re: OT: AMC theater's new scam
You mean I've been gouging the client when I add a 20% surcharge for using Beldon cable. I always thought I was saving them from the horrors of Gepco and other cheaper brands. ;-)
PS. Note smiley. I'm aware the specs for Gepco and many other cables are equal to or perhaps better than Beldon. Put down the shot gun Bob.
--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@...> wrote:
>
>
> It would be like an editor saying, "try my new IEE (Improved Editing Experience) which provides actual caring about the project, true concern over where to place an edit, and even knowledge of the editing system interface! All this for a mere 1/3rd more on the pay rate.
>
Re: [Avid-L2] Re: EDL Manager Won't Open
Thanks, everyone, for al your help and advice!
David
On Dec 5, 2010, at 3:01 PM, johnrobmoore wrote:
> Oliver had mentioned that in the previous thread but being the devil may car kinda guy on my last update I clicked them all and it seems to have worked so far. I should say all I did was make sure that edl manager launched but haven't used it for any real work so perhaps more will be revealed down the line. Prior to these threads I'd always added the helper app after installing MCsoft and it worked then. I'm on a mac so there may be a difference in the PC experience that I'm not aware of.
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Roger Shufflebottom <rogshuff@...> wrote:
> >
> > I recall that at some point, Avid said to install EDL Manager before installing the editing application. Not sure if that still holds.
> >
> > On 5 Dec 2010, at 02:14, oliverpetersvidy wrote:
> >
> > > I concur with John's advice. Same experience on my end.
> > >
> > > - Oliver
> > >
> > >
> >
> > With best wishes.
> > Roger Shufflebottom
> > +44 7974 543 660
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
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[Avid-L2] Re: EDL Manager Won't Open
Oliver had mentioned that in the previous thread but being the devil may car kinda guy on my last update I clicked them all and it seems to have worked so far. I should say all I did was make sure that edl manager launched but haven't used it for any real work so perhaps more will be revealed down the line. Prior to these threads I'd always added the helper app after installing MCsoft and it worked then. I'm on a mac so there may be a difference in the PC experience that I'm not aware of.
--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Roger Shufflebottom <rogshuff@...> wrote:
>
> I recall that at some point, Avid said to install EDL Manager before installing the editing application. Not sure if that still holds.
>
> On 5 Dec 2010, at 02:14, oliverpetersvidy wrote:
>
> > I concur with John's advice. Same experience on my end.
> >
> > - Oliver
> >
> >
>
> With best wishes.
> Roger Shufflebottom
> +44 7974 543 660
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
Re: [Avid-L2] OT: AMC theater's new scam
I always keep the glasses just to Stick it to The Man :)
...all three times I have seen a 3D movie that is :/
-gl
On Dec 5, 2010, at 12:57 PM, Susan Perla wrote:
> Hey Terry;
> You forgot to mention theatre charging extra for 3d movie theatre glasses
> which they ask you to "recycle" at the end of the show in bins by theatre
> exits...
> susan
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Terence Curren <tcurren@aol.com>
> To: FinalCutPro-L@yahoogroups.com; Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sun, December 5, 2010 11:39:11 AM
> Subject: [Avid-L2] OT: AMC theater's new scam
>
>
> Took the family to AMC to see a movie yesterday and was introduced to the AMC
> theater chain's new money grabbing scheme. They have what they call the
> "Enhanced Theater Experience" which actually means they are charging you 4
> dollars more per ticket. What do you get for that? According to their press
> release:
>
> "ETX includes a 20-percent larger screen, 3D technology, digital projection and
> an upgraded sound system. "
>
> Okay, this movie was not in 3D, and a bigger screen should mean you sit farther
> away, but these are existing cracker box theaters so that isn't going to happen.
> And the "upgraded sound system" is twice as many speakers with higher wattage.
> In other words, either their sound systems were already sub par, or they will
> now make sure you leave the theater deaf.
>
> This blatant rip-off is just another reason that they are going to kill
> themselves by ensuring folks stay home to watch movies.
>
> And yes, I refused to pay the extortion fee and went to another theater chain to
> see the movie.
>
> Terence Curren
> Burbank, CA
>
> www.alphadogs.tv
> www.digitalservicestation.com
>
> www.editorslounge.com
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Re: [Avid-L2] OT: AMC theater's new scam
Good for you for walking out! I've given up on any big chain or multiplex theater going, if for no other reason than the abusive, imbecile action trailers. I went to see "No Country For Old Men" and was treated to five trailers for horror/action/fantasy/adventure (i.e - teenage boy movies) for about fifteen minutes. They were so loud I literally had to cover my ears. Then the feature started, with that medium wide shot of highway and prairie that opens the movie, and the print was so scratched that for a second I thought it was some cheesy pseudo-archival effect. I had gotten to the point of wondering what the hell had happened to the Cohen brothers when it started to clear up, and I understood that the hideously scratched print was simply another gesture of complete contempt directed at the theater audience.
Shirley
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Sent: Sun, Dec 5, 2010 11:39 am
Subject: [Avid-L2] OT: AMC theater's new scam
Took the family to AMC to see a movie yesterday and was introduced to the AMC
theater chain's new money grabbing scheme. They have what they call the
"Enhanced Theater Experience" which actually means they are charging you 4
dollars more per ticket. What do you get for that? According to their press
release:
"ETX includes a 20-percent larger screen, 3D technology, digital projection and
an upgraded sound system. "
Okay, this movie was not in 3D, and a bigger screen should mean you sit farther
away, but these are existing cracker box theaters so that isn't going to happen.
And the "upgraded sound system" is twice as many speakers with higher wattage.
In other words, either their sound systems were already sub par, or they will
now make sure you leave the theater deaf.
This blatant rip-off is just another reason that they are going to kill
themselves by ensuring folks stay home to watch movies.
And yes, I refused to pay the extortion fee and went to another theater chain to
see the movie.
Terence Curren
Burbank, CA
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www.digitalservicestation.com
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Re: [Avid-L2] OT: AMC theater's new scam
What this whole thing smacks of is unabashed desperation by exhibitors. They simply have no idea WHAT to do, and so are trying anything, even patently fraudulent and feckless marketing to get people to come in.
Stunning that the exhibitors don't see the fundamentals of clean theaters, bright projection and clear sound as being the cornerstone of their business. After that, it's the Industry making movies that people actually want to see, rather than tired retreads and a bizarre, almost fetishistic obsession with super heroes.
See, was that so hard?
David
On Dec 5, 2010, at 1:10 PM, Benjamin Hershleder wrote:
>
>
>
> I got this surprise a while ago too Terry (at the AMC 16 in Burbank) and it was for the big-screen, enhanced-sound worthy, film epic "Get Him to the Greek"!
> It made no sense that that movie was shown in that space.
> Cheers,
>
> B
>
>
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> On Dec 5, 2010, at 11:39 AM, Terence Curren wrote:
>
>> Took the family to AMC to see a movie yesterday and was introduced to the AMC theater chain's new money grabbing scheme. They have what they call the "Enhanced Theater Experience" which actually means they are charging you 4 dollars more per ticket. What do you get for that? According to their press release:
>>
>> "ETX includes a 20-percent larger screen, 3D technology, digital projection and an upgraded sound system. "
>>
>> Okay, this movie was not in 3D, and a bigger screen should mean you sit farther away, but these are existing cracker box theaters so that isn't going to happen. And the "upgraded sound system" is twice as many speakers with higher wattage. In other words, either their sound systems were already sub par, or they will now make sure you leave the theater deaf.
>>
>> This blatant rip-off is just another reason that they are going to kill themselves by ensuring folks stay home to watch movies.
>>
>> And yes, I refused to pay the extortion fee and went to another theater chain to see the movie.
>>
>> Terence Curren
>> Burbank, CA
>>
>> www.alphadogs.tv
>> www.digitalservicestation.com
>>
>> www.editorslounge.com
>>
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