On Apr 17, 2017, at 6:54 PM, bigfish@pacbell.net [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:If everyone did an import into their own projects those are all individual clips. Just because it's an import of the same file Avid does not consider it the same clip in general.
Yep, and that's why I'm curious how this worked. He solved it, but I'm trying to figure out _why_ it worked. I'm sure there might be something he did that he doesn't even remember doing (so often the case), but it was a curiosity for me. When I got his first email my initial thought was he'd have to try to "Force" Relink the clips. But, he solved it before I could get back to him (good on him!). I just would like to know the secret handshake that made it work, so I can learn and also set him straight.
I would assume that you took your online sequence from the producer and you batch imported based on that sequence. That would generate imported media that has the same metadata as the producers sequence and that would allow him to relink to your online clips.
The goal is/was just to relink the Producer's media to the different editors' sequences (they emailed him their bins), since all had started with the same original camera media. He got it to work, so I'm thinking that DEselecting 'Relink only to media in the current project' along with setting the 'Relink by' to "Tape Name or Source File ID" is the recipe that made it work. Without being over his shoulder at the time, I'll never know . . . and I don't think he remembers the ingredients that finally worked. He attributed it to the deleting of the Reference Clips, which is what had me scratching my head. Like you, I didn't think that would really have any impact.
How did you create your online media? I bet you batch imported from the producer's sequence.
This isn't Offline to Online workflow. It's just multiple versions of the same mxf media, with different project association. What makes it amazing to me that it relinked without a "Force" was that each editor created their own imported mxf media files. So . . . it would seem that the camera metadata traveled along and he was still able to relink by Source File Name or Source File ID.
At any rate . . . – say, 29.97 – (editor pun) . . . I was just looking for some insight / confirmation on my understanding of the programming. I appreciate you lending your input.
Have a good night, John!
Benjamin
---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <Ben@ContactBen.com> wrote :TO:Avid L-2andMichael, Terry, and JeffHey gang,No urgency on my end, I'm just trying to learn from others' tech problems – gotta have a hobby, right?! ;)While the issue below was ultimately solved, I'm hoping that one or more of you Über-Brains may be able to shed some additional light on _why_ this particular technique worked.Here's the scenario:1. Multiple editors, and one Producer, are provided identical Source/Camera Clips (I'm guessing QT).2. Each imports the Source/Camera Clips onto their own, separate, individual, unique Project on their personal external HD. **Note that they IMPORTED, so that new media was created and placed in the Avid MediaFiles folder.3. Each editor emails their Sequence Bin to the Producer, and he tries to relink. No luck.4. Producer attempts relinking, fiddling with the relink settings, telling me: "I tried to relink to any video format, relinking by different information (Timecode, Source Name, etc), and UNchecking the 'Relink only to media in the current project' but nothing worked for me."5. Success came, he tells me, when "I went to Set Bin Display > Show Reference Clips then deleted all of those Master Clips (which were offline anyway) then Relinked the Sequence to my drive with the online versions of those same clips and it worked this time."NOTE: he did *not* (AFAIK) do any of the following:a. File Menu > Media > Load Media Databases.b. File Menu > Media > Refresh Media Databases.c. Trash the Media Databases.QUESTION 1:So, did deleting the Reference Master Clips force the Media Databases to update? Is that why that worked?QUESTION 2 (only tangentially related):True or False: In the back of my mind (waaaaay back!) I seem to recall that, when it comes to relinking, Sequences are less strict/more forgiving than Master Clips (since they're essentially just a collection of Subclips, and/or that they have different relinking rules than clips themselves in general).Thanks all for playing!Cheers,Benjamin
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