Re: [Avid-L2] Won't do this again

Ancient LA proverb: "A WPD toils from sun to sun, but an editor's work is never done".


On Jun 14, 2013, at 10:00 AM, Mark Myers wrote:

> I would agree with all of this. I have a writer/producer friend who
> "finished" an hour long documentary more than 5 years ago. Every time
> he orders DVD's, we have to 'tweak' something and make a new
> master...... fortunately he pays. This time he wants to go back to the
> original edit, long since lost since it was done in someone else's FCP
> suite, and re-work one of the "look" plug ins. Finally told him "Not
> Possible."
>
> Mark
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> On 6/14/2013 3:42 PM, Mikeparsons.tv wrote:
> >
> > Final revised 2 final is however an acceptable title judging by many
> > offlines I get!
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > On 15 Jun, 2013, at 2:04 AM, Curtis Nichols <curtisnpcs@sbcglobal.net
> > <mailto:curtisnpcs%40sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
> >
> > > The length of the show has no bearing on the approval cycle.
> > >
> > > You have to treat WPD like children - set boundaries and stick to
> > them. Expect them to be tested.
> > > Shows are never finished. Thank heavens for deadlines.
> > >
> > >
> > > And never - never - label a bin or sequence as "final".
> > >
> > > Curtis Nichols
> > > Senior Editor
> > > PCS Production Co.
> > > Irving, Tx.
> > > ------------------
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Greg Huson
> > > Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Won't do this again
> > >
> > >
> > > This is a common problem - the beauty of release dates / festival
> > deadlines / etc is that you have to stop. Don't remember the
> > attribution, but someone important (or, more likely, self-important)
> > said a film is never finished, you just stop working on it. (sic)
> > >
> > > Normally when we agree to help a filmmaker we put limits on it -
> > typically we do a cut, then supervise a cut, then there's one more
> > round after that for whatever reason - after that, they pay more.
> > >
> > > You're going to have to create a deadline, for whatever reason. If
> > you're working for free, that would be starting a new gig, moving to a
> > feature-length production, surgery, moving to another country where
> > they don't have internet... and back time your other finishing tasks
> > from there. Even if the deadline is 'I refuse to work on this project
> > after next tuesday,' that's a deadline. Try to find something real,
> > not made up, and hopefully it won't be contentious. In other words,
> > you can't fire the w/p/d - just yourself.
> > >
> > > I hope the pay you're getting isn't 'the promise of future work.'
> > That's a very bad bet, even if the w/p/d is a genius and destined for
> > greatness. If you're working for free, it should be for what you get
> > from that specific project - the experience, the knowledge that this
> > film will change the world, whatever.
> > >
> > > Being a little bit of a hard ass will actually help the w/p/d at
> > this point, too.
> > >
> > > ---------------------
> > > On Jun 14, 2013, at 11:18 AM, john.maio5011 <jmaio@mac.com
> > <mailto:jmaio%40mac.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > > > In the world of no/low budget independent films, the writer,
> > producer, and director (WPD) is often the same person. Often, the
> > budget for post is well below the percentage needed to fund the work
> > required (some say 40% of the total)
> > > >
> > > > I'm working on a short film now and having great difficulty
> > getting the WPD to agree to picture lock so I can finish the trimming,
> > audio mixing and other things needed to clear this project. Seems
> > every time she sees a version, she thinks of something else to change,
> > and, since she is also the writer, the script flow is also changeable.
> > > >
> > > > Guess what I'm asking the L2 community is how many approval cycles
> > is the norm for editing a 15 - 20 minute short, and how do I fire the
> > WPD if the change cycle goes on and on.
> > >
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