This IS the Avid L2: Re: [Avid-L2] Won't do this again

Friday, June 14, 2013

Re: [Avid-L2] Won't do this again

I would agree with all of this. I have a writer/producer friend who
"finished" an hour long documentary more than 5 years ago. Every time
he orders DVD's, we have to 'tweak' something and make a new
master...... fortunately he pays. This time he wants to go back to the
original edit, long since lost since it was done in someone else's FCP
suite, and re-work one of the "look" plug ins. Finally told him "Not
Possible."

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On 6/14/2013 3:42 PM, Mikeparsons.tv wrote:
>
> Final revised 2 final is however an acceptable title judging by many
> offlines I get!
>
> Mike
>
> On 15 Jun, 2013, at 2:04 AM, Curtis Nichols <curtisnpcs@sbcglobal.net
> <mailto:curtisnpcs%40sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
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> > The length of the show has no bearing on the approval cycle.
> >
> > You have to treat WPD like children - set boundaries and stick to
> them. Expect them to be tested.
> > Shows are never finished. Thank heavens for deadlines.
> >
> >
> > And never - never - label a bin or sequence as "final".
> >
> > Curtis Nichols
> > Senior Editor
> > PCS Production Co.
> > Irving, Tx.
> > ------------------
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Greg Huson
> > Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Won't do this again
> >
> >
> > This is a common problem - the beauty of release dates / festival
> deadlines / etc is that you have to stop. Don't remember the
> attribution, but someone important (or, more likely, self-important)
> said a film is never finished, you just stop working on it. (sic)
> >
> > Normally when we agree to help a filmmaker we put limits on it -
> typically we do a cut, then supervise a cut, then there's one more
> round after that for whatever reason - after that, they pay more.
> >
> > You're going to have to create a deadline, for whatever reason. If
> you're working for free, that would be starting a new gig, moving to a
> feature-length production, surgery, moving to another country where
> they don't have internet... and back time your other finishing tasks
> from there. Even if the deadline is 'I refuse to work on this project
> after next tuesday,' that's a deadline. Try to find something real,
> not made up, and hopefully it won't be contentious. In other words,
> you can't fire the w/p/d - just yourself.
> >
> > I hope the pay you're getting isn't 'the promise of future work.'
> That's a very bad bet, even if the w/p/d is a genius and destined for
> greatness. If you're working for free, it should be for what you get
> from that specific project - the experience, the knowledge that this
> film will change the world, whatever.
> >
> > Being a little bit of a hard ass will actually help the w/p/d at
> this point, too.
> >
> > ---------------------
> > On Jun 14, 2013, at 11:18 AM, john.maio5011 <jmaio@mac.com
> <mailto:jmaio%40mac.com>> wrote:
> >
> > > In the world of no/low budget independent films, the writer,
> producer, and director (WPD) is often the same person. Often, the
> budget for post is well below the percentage needed to fund the work
> required (some say 40% of the total)
> > >
> > > I'm working on a short film now and having great difficulty
> getting the WPD to agree to picture lock so I can finish the trimming,
> audio mixing and other things needed to clear this project. Seems
> every time she sees a version, she thinks of something else to change,
> and, since she is also the writer, the script flow is also changeable.
> > >
> > > Guess what I'm asking the L2 community is how many approval cycles
> is the norm for editing a 15 - 20 minute short, and how do I fire the
> WPD if the change cycle goes on and on.
> >
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> >
> >
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