Re: [Avid-L2] Isis workspaces

Thanks Dom. This is a brand new ISIS 7000 with mirrored RAID. It's big... 900 HD hours I think even after the mirroring... of course that's meaningless without knowing compression (probably AVCHD).

But this is what I needed to know. The ACSR at the station said that there were issues with my idea to mix the news promos which have to all be AVCHD in the Avid with DNxHD for the rest of the promotional stuff. Supposedly he claimed that you shouldn't have AVCHD and DNxHD (of any flavor) on the same ISIS workspace. This seemed crazy, but I knew that it COULD be correct. He also told me that the latest version of DS was not supported to work on the latest ISIS 7000 and we have confirmed that as incorrect information as well, so this guy is batting .000 with me.

There are no FCP systems that are going to be on this ISIS. But I want to mix AVCHD internally with DNxHD. And I want to put a DS on it, which I think most people would agree is a better box for editing promotional material on than MC.

Steve Hullfish
contributor: www.provideocoalition.com
author: "The Art and Technique of Digital Color Correction"

On Feb 9, 2013, at 7:56 AM, "Dom Q. Silverio" <domqsilverio@gmail.com> wrote:

> Apologies, smartphone reply was not quite smart.
>
> Let me clarify.
>
> I do not know any restrictions with Avid ISIS regarding formats and
> compression. You can mix frame size, frame rate, compression and such on
> the same workspace without any issue. At any given time many of our
> clients mix DNX, XDCAM, DVCPro, Meridien, HDV and such in the same
> workspace, in the same project. This is on ISIS 5000. I don't see why
> the big brother ISIS 7000 would not be able to do the same. But as I
> mentioned, Lawson is more qualified to answer that as he works with
> 7000s every day. I am not sure which ISIS you where utilizing.
>
> Regarding mix NLEs, though there is no compression mixing limitation,
> there is a NLE platform limitation. Each ISIS 5000 chassis is rated
> around 325 MB/s. When using Avid editor with non-Avid editing system (ie
> FCP and Premiere) the box overall rating drops to around 200 MB/s or
> even less. 7000 is a bit different in regards to speed but there is
> still a huge penalty when utilizing 3rd party NLEs.
>
> Not sure if this helps, but hoped it clarified my previous statements.
>
> Dom Q. Silverio
>
> On 2/9/2013 7:56 AM, Steve Hullfish wrote:
> > THis is not even close to what I asked.
> >
> > Steve Hullfish
> > contributor: www.provideocoalition.com
> >
> >
> > On Feb 9, 2013, at 6:14 AM, "Dom Q. Silverio" domqsilverio@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Brand of NLEs, specifically FCP and Avid. This is at least true for 5K.
> >> It seems your ISIS is 7K. Lawson knows better in that regards.
> >>
> >> As for compressions - not AFAIK. We had shows with XDCAM HD, XDCAM EX,
> >> 15:1s, 10:1, DNX 145, DNX 220 and others on the same server while
> >> maintaining the expected performance.
> >>
> >> On 2/9/2013 12:39 AM, Steve Hullfish wrote:
> >>> That wasn't really my question. But, to clarify, you are saying that all of the systems should be what? MCs? Same versions? Same brand of NLEs?
> >>>
> >>> All I asked about was that there are several codecs that you CAN import/transcode/capture to. I was told that you shouldn't mix the codecs that the Avid is capable of transcoding to on the same workspace. This is an ISIS with ALL MC6.5s.
> >>>
> >>> Steve Hullfish
> >>> contributor: www.provideocoalition.com
> >>> author: "The Art and Technique of Digital Color Correction"
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Feb 8, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Dom Q. Silverio domqsilverio@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> You don't want to mix NLE platform. There is a significant bandwidth penalty for each chassis involved.
> >>>>
> >>>> DQS
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