Saturday, February 9, 2013

Re: [Avid-L2] Isis workspaces

 

AVCHD isn't a native file format. Are you keeping the material on an ISIS
workspace and AMA linking to it?

On Saturday, February 9, 2013, Steve Hullfish wrote:

> Thanks Dom. This is a brand new ISIS 7000 with mirrored RAID. It's big...
> 900 HD hours I think even after the mirroring... of course that's
> meaningless without knowing compression (probably AVCHD).
>
> But this is what I needed to know. The ACSR at the station said that there
> were issues with my idea to mix the news promos which have to all be AVCHD
> in the Avid with DNxHD for the rest of the promotional stuff. Supposedly he
> claimed that you shouldn't have AVCHD and DNxHD (of any flavor) on the same
> ISIS workspace. This seemed crazy, but I knew that it COULD be correct. He
> also told me that the latest version of DS was not supported to work on the
> latest ISIS 7000 and we have confirmed that as incorrect information as
> well, so this guy is batting .000 with me.
>
> There are no FCP systems that are going to be on this ISIS. But I want to
> mix AVCHD internally with DNxHD. And I want to put a DS on it, which I
> think most people would agree is a better box for editing promotional
> material on than MC.
>
> Steve Hullfish
> contributor: www.provideocoalition.com
> author: "The Art and Technique of Digital Color Correction"
>
> On Feb 9, 2013, at 7:56 AM, "Dom Q. Silverio" domqsilverio@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Apologies, smartphone reply was not quite smart.
> >
> > Let me clarify.
> >
> > I do not know any restrictions with Avid ISIS regarding formats and
> > compression. You can mix frame size, frame rate, compression and such on
> > the same workspace without any issue. At any given time many of our
> > clients mix DNX, XDCAM, DVCPro, Meridien, HDV and such in the same
> > workspace, in the same project. This is on ISIS 5000. I don't see why
> > the big brother ISIS 7000 would not be able to do the same. But as I
> > mentioned, Lawson is more qualified to answer that as he works with
> > 7000s every day. I am not sure which ISIS you where utilizing.
> >
> > Regarding mix NLEs, though there is no compression mixing limitation,
> > there is a NLE platform limitation. Each ISIS 5000 chassis is rated
> > around 325 MB/s. When using Avid editor with non-Avid editing system (ie
> > FCP and Premiere) the box overall rating drops to around 200 MB/s or
> > even less. 7000 is a bit different in regards to speed but there is
> > still a huge penalty when utilizing 3rd party NLEs.
> >
> > Not sure if this helps, but hoped it clarified my previous statements.
> >
> > Dom Q. Silverio
> >
> > On 2/9/2013 7:56 AM, Steve Hullfish wrote:
> > > THis is not even close to what I asked.
> > >
> > > Steve Hullfish
> > > contributor: www.provideocoalition.com
> > >
> > >
> > > On Feb 9, 2013, at 6:14 AM, "Dom Q. Silverio" domqsilverio@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Brand of NLEs, specifically FCP and Avid. This is at least true for
> 5K.
> > >> It seems your ISIS is 7K. Lawson knows better in that regards.
> > >>
> > >> As for compressions - not AFAIK. We had shows with XDCAM HD, XDCAM EX,
> > >> 15:1s, 10:1, DNX 145, DNX 220 and others on the same server while
> > >> maintaining the expected performance.
> > >>
> > >> On 2/9/2013 12:39 AM, Steve Hullfish wrote:
> > >>> That wasn't really my question. But, to clarify, you are saying that
> all of the systems should be what? MCs? Same versions? Same brand of NLEs?
> > >>>
> > >>> All I asked about was that there are several codecs that you CAN
> import/transcode/capture to. I was told that you shouldn't mix the codecs
> that the Avid is capable of transcoding to on the same workspace. This is
> an ISIS with ALL MC6.5s.
> > >>>
> > >>> Steve Hullfish
> > >>> contributor: www.provideocoalition.com
> > >>> author: "The Art and Technique of Digital Color Correction"
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Feb 8, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Dom Q. Silverio domqsilverio@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> You don't want to mix NLE platform. There is a significant
> bandwidth penalty for each chassis involved.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> DQS
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