Sunday, August 26, 2012

Re: [Avid-L2] 2 Avid questions in regards to FCP workflow

 

Hey John,

Without any question, FCP has better and more flexible selection tools than does Avid. However, there are slightly better ways of accomplishing what you want in MC.

For your first question, moving a clip from track to track. There's no "click free" way of doing this in Avid, but you if you use the red arrow segment mode, you can at least lock the segment in its current TC position by holding down "Shift/Command" when you drag to the new track. And if you decide to go the clipboard route, holding down the Option modifier when you lift or extract will automatically load the clipboard contents in the Source window. I use this constantly when moving big hunks of material around, and I miss it terribly when I work in FCP. Option/Copy also works that way, and is great for doing things like borrowing room tone to use in another location. BTW, I'm speaking Mac here, but I'm assuming you know to substitute Control or Alt for the key modifiers if you're on PC.

And when sliding segments with the red segment mode, you can use the trim keys at the bottom of the keyboard to move in increments of 1 or 10 frames. There is no way that I know of to customize these values as you can in FCP. And Avid has no "collision" warning when you go to slide segments this way, but if you move the segment with the mouse, you can use the Command key to snap to head frames of adjacent segments, or Command/Option to snap to tail frames of adjacent segments, thus preventing the inadvertent overwrite.

I hope this helps!

Shirley

-----Original Message-----
From: John Kilgour <john@digitalcut.com>
To: avid-L2 <avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Aug 26, 2012 11:36 am
Subject: [Avid-L2] 2 Avid questions in regards to FCP workflow

Man, it seems like it's been so long. All my clients were asking for FCP
editors back in 2009, so i trained myself on it (after cutting strictly on Avid
since 1992). Now, I am back on Avid
for a bunch of new shows, and I have a couple of questions.

Simply because

A- I don;'t know if I've learned a lot of bad habits with FCP or
B- I just don't know if Avid has these features and I don't know how to find
them.

Simply put, there are 2 things that I did in FCP that I don't think I can do in
Avid, and was wondering if anyone knew how to do these things in Avid.

First- A simple one. In FCP, lets say I have an audio track on track 1, and I
want to move it to track 2. I could simply just click on the clip, hit
option-arrow down, and bingo, it's on track
2 at the same exact TC in spot. With avid, it seems like I can do 1 of 2
things: go into red arrow seg mode, click on the clip, and drag it down. OK,
but it slips around, not locked
on it current in-point. The second way is to mark in-out, lift, open clipboard,
patch to the new track, and overwrite edit. Wow, thats a lotta steps. Am I
missing something?

Second- Lets say I have clip that I want to slide along it's current track to
"butt up" against a previous clip. Lets say clip 1 is on track 1, and clip 2 is
3 seconds away from it to the right,
with a 3 send gap between them. In FCP, I can just click on the clip to the
right, hit shift<, and the clip will move in 30 frame increments, until it
"hits" the clip to the left, and stops, without
cutting into it. "Collision" it's called. Hence, now the clips are together.
Does that make sense? It seems like I can't so this in Avid, or am I missing
something. I have to click on on the red seg mode
(again), and slide it manually, and if I'm not careful, it will cut into the
previous clip.

I'm sure that I have just developed some bad habits. The whole "3-point
editing" that I learned and grew up with kind of went away with FCP, and I
worked with the
timeline a lot, slipping and sliding things around. It seems like Avid won't
let me do this, and I right?

I'm not complaining - I feel like Avid has really grown and it rocks, it just
doesn't seem like I'm doing it right. Any thoughts?

-- John

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