Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Alexa ProRes, Avid, and Frame Rates

No, not confused. Just frustrated with the plethora of formats and standards around the world that only serves to make more pointless busy-work for all of us that you don't even make any money off of. Again, I would tell them to shoot the movie at 24 and the TV show at 25, but since they're shooting everything at the same time, I just know there's no way they will ever be that disciplined.

So I'm leaning towards asking for 24fps, and doing the speed up. I've heard slow downs and speed-ups as Job describes below, and even though one might think that a frame plus or minus wouldn't make a difference, it actually really, really does. To my ears, it's a bit less offensive sped up than slowed down. But only a bit.

So much fun.

DD


On Jul 6, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Job ter Burg (L2B) wrote:

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> I hate it when things are slower. Other than that, this implies a sound conversion of the entire mix for the feature, which is tricky at best. The slowdown will lower the pitch, compensating the pitch is a b*tch. There's just not a really good way to do that. I'd prefer the conversion on the TV-mix as rather than having to mess with the theatrical mix.
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> But there's no way around some disappointment somewhere down the line.
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> An in-between solution is to hand the composer a 24fps playout of the theatrical version and 25fps playouts of the episodes, so they can score at the right speed. Then only the dialogue needs to be corrected. Changing actor's voices with 4% is acceptable to some, but I'm not one of them. Female voices suffer from slowdowns rather quickly (makes them dull), male voices can quickly sound funny speeded up.
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> Finally: an option is to do everything 25, even the theatrical. Downside is that not all distributors accept 25fps DCP's, neither do all sales agents. But AFFAIK, 25fps is part of the DCI standard.
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> Sorry, just confusing you more I guess.
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> On 6 jul. 2012, at 20:15, pierrehaberer wrote:
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> > it will run slightly slower on the big screen, which is fine as the screen is... bigger indeed.
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>

David Dodson
davidadodson@sbcglobal.net





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