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Friday, May 11, 2012

Re: [Avid-L2] EBU R128 as plugin?

Hmm.
few points then:
For the final mix, it is NOT about peaks. They do very little to the overall
value.
So if you want a loud gunshot, it's fine.
The overall perceptive loudness needs to be conform specs, so you can use a
very dynamic mix if you like.
Hence i like to mix as normal, then adust the entire mix.
funny enough, if i mix like i normally do, (do not compress, spoken text up
to -9 on peak meters, music to liking but not exceed -9), it is almost
always just good..

But to get it fast and easy done, i still prefer the R128gain, as it is
worry free :-)

Bouke

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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Ross" <speckydave@gmail.com>
To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] EBU R128 as plugin?

> Sorry, yes. I use only the standalone. Like I said, I'm don't know
> anything about the plug-in.
>
> I use it for onlining TV ads - my audio is generally a single stereo
> wav or aiff. So obviously it's pretty simple for me to tweak the
> overall level of the mixes. The PPMulator batch may not be so useful
> for long form mixes where you need to know *where* the peaks are,
> though it will give you a rough idea if you watch the meters as it
> scans, since it does show levels it goes, along with the percentage
> completed
> Really, I think the batch is just for a final safety/sanity-check
> before delivery.
>
> As to how much to change the whole mix by, I use it with FCP and I use
> the mixer (same as I'd do it if I was on an Avid), but how much to
> change by depends on what kind of metering I have to do (PPM,
> True-Peak, R128) for the delivery. Sometimes it's just trial and error
> till I get it to where I want it. Which is no big deal for a 30" ad.
> Not so much fun with long-form, obviously.
>
> D.
>
>
> On 11 May 2012 15:41, bouke <bouke@editb.nl> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> ah yes, the stand alone app!
>> But, when you got your results, what do you do to get it right?
>> My preferred way is to adjust the entire mix, but by what?
>>
>>
>>
>> Bouke
>>
>> VideoToolShed
>> van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
>> 6512 AS NIJMEGEN
>> The Netherlands
>> +31 24 3553311
>> www.videotoolshed.com
>> For large files:
>> http://dropbox.yousendit.com/BoukeVahl998172
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Ross" <speckydave@gmail.com>
>> To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 3:54 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] EBU R128 as plugin?
>>
>> > Open the preferences, go to "Peak log," click on "choose input
>> > file(s),"
>> > select all the aiff/wav files you need and off you go.
>> > It will then analyse the audio based on the meter type, levels and
>> > frame-rate that you have already set. (So if you're measuring for EBU
>> > R128,
>> > you need to make sure there's no extra silence at the beginning or
>> > end.)
>> >
>> > Way faster than real time.
>> >
>> > D.
>> >
>> >
>> > On 11 May 2012 14:05, bouke <bouke@editb.nl> wrote:
>> >
>> >> **
>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> David,
>> >> That's the one i ment...
>> >> AFAIK, it can only be used on one track.
>> >> How does the batch mode work? Can it scan the entire track faster than
>> >> RT?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Bouke
>> >>
>> >> VideoToolShed
>> >> van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
>> >> 6512 AS NIJMEGEN
>> >> The Netherlands
>> >> +31 24 3553311
>> >> www.videotoolshed.com
>> >> For large files:
>> >> http://dropbox.yousendit.com/BoukeVahl998172
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "David Ross" <speckydave@gmail.com>
>> >> To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
>> >> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 1:40 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] EBU R128 as plugin?
>> >>
>> >> > PPMulator XL works on Mac & Windows, and can be used both in
>> >> > real-time
>> >> and
>> >> > batch mode. I believe it can be used as a plug-in for ProTools, but
>> >> > I'm
>> >> > not
>> >> > sure about Avid.
>> >> > Not free, unfortunately.
>> >> > http://products.zplane.de/index.php?page=ppmulatorxl
>> >> >
>> >> > D.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On 11 May 2012 12:13, bouke <bouke@editb.nl> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> **
>> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> There is a plugin, i have it, but it is buggy as hell (on MC 5.0x,
>> >> >> XP)
>> >> >> And, it's only good for commercials as it works in RT.
>> >> >> This means, you need to reset, play the show, then you have
>> >> >> results.
>> >> >> IOW, totally unusable, as if it is not good, you need to make
>> >> adjustments
>> >> >> and do the entire thing again.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I would suggest using R128gain. (afaik, windows only)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It is a stand alone program. Mix like you want, export a wave,
>> >> >> process
>> >> it
>> >> >> and import back and be done with it.
>> >> >> Oh, and it's free....
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Bouke
>> >> >>
>> >> >> VideoToolShed
>> >> >> van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
>> >> >> 6512 AS NIJMEGEN
>> >> >> The Netherlands
>> >> >> +31 24 3553311
>> >> >> www.videotoolshed.com
>> >> >> For large files:
>> >> >> http://dropbox.yousendit.com/BoukeVahl998172
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> From: "Nigel Gourley" <avid-l@outpostfacilities.co.uk>
>> >> >> To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
>> >> >> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 11:45 AM
>> >> >> Subject: [Avid-L2] EBU R128 as plugin?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Hi there,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > What are people using to monitor this within Avid? Does the
>> >> >> > software
>> >> >> > solutions work in realtime and on the timeline permanently?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thanks
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > N
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >
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