Wednesday, December 28, 2011

[Avid-L2] Re: Error when performing Digital Cut using IO Express and DVW?

 

We've been using the Kona card control for years since Greg Huson discovered that little trick. One less cable to move on a Nitris DX / Kona system. Of course now that Kona cards are supported the dual card system is no longer necessary.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Mark Spano <cutandcover@...> wrote:
>
> Think I may have found a solution.
>
> Took a little time and got behind the racks to rewire the 422 to the IO
> Express's port. Using the IO Express 422 instead of the Avid-sanctioned
> Keyspan serial adapter WORKS. I don't know if anyone's heard any caveats
> about using that, but it seems to be behaving nicely with all of my decks.
>
> Going now to rest my head...
>
> -Mark
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Mark Spano <cutandcover@...> wrote:
>
> > Those are more good suggestions. Here's the results:
> >
> > Setting deck configuration to SRW-5500 still gives me control of the
> > DigiBeta. But now if I go to perform the Digital Cut, it gives me the error
> > upon preroll. Doesn't even try to roll in and record.
> >
> > Tried my other two DVW decks too - same error.
> >
> > This is just fail city.
> >
> > I greatly appreciate the ideas though - thanks again.
> > -Mark
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 4:58 PM, johnrobmoore <bigfish@...> wrote:
> >
> >> **
> >>
> >>
> >> You did say that the problem system will edit to SRW-5500 IIRC. What if
> >> you manually configure the deck to the 5500 and try and control the
> >> digibeta? It may not be frame accurate but I think the video record strobe
> >> will still work given FCP7 had a generic setting for all Sony machines so
> >> the basic protocol must be very similar. Do you have another digibeta
> >> machine to try just to see if there is some slight format issue with the
> >> deck?
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Mark Spano <cutandcover@> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Yep - forgot to mention that when I upgraded to 5.5.3.1, I tried that
> >> > option. No dice as well...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 4:35 PM, electropura212 <electropura212@
> >> ...>wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > **
> >>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > I know you are on AJA, but the Blackmagic manual for Avid has
> >> instructions
> >> > > for a setting to relax Coincindence Point detection. This may fix your
> >> > > problem. Give it a try.
> >> > >
> >> > > Capture from Controllable devices with UltraStudio, DeckLink and
> >> > > Multibridge
> >> > > If you have a deck which connects via RS-422, you will need to
> >> configure
> >> > > the deck settings before performing
> >> > > a capture.
> >> > > From your project window, click the Settings tab and double-click on
> >> Deck
> >> > > Configuration.
> >> > > In the Deck Configuration dialog box, click Add Channel and then set
> >> the
> >> > > Channel Type to Direct and the Port to RS-422 Deck Control. Click OK
> >> and
> >> > > choose "No" when asked, "Do you want to autoconfigure the channel
> >> now?"
> >> > > Click Add Deck and then select your brand and model of deck from the
> >> Device
> >> > > menus and also set the desired preroll. Click OK and then Apply.
> >> > > Under the Settings tab, double-click on Deck Preferences.
> >> > > If you plan to make assemble edits to tape, enable the option to
> >> "Allow
> >> > > assemble edit & crash record for digital cut". If this option is left
> >> > > unchecked, you will only be able to perform insert edits.
> >> > > Enable the option to "Relax coincidence point detection" and set other
> >> > > settings as needed. Click OK. You have completed setting up the RS-422
> >> > > connection to your deck.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> http://www.blackmagic-design.com/media/2445176/Desktop_Video_Manual.pdf
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Wednesday, December 28, 2011, Mark Spano <cutandcover@> wrote:
> >> > > > More testing:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Tried insert edit on pre-striped tape - same error. Tried video only
> >> > > > sequence, same result.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Tried assemble edit with deck set to reference input video - same
> >> error.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > At this point, I am officially declaring this operation broken.
> >> Hopefully
> >> > > > someone at Avid will respond to my trouble reports there.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thanks again for the suggestions guys.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Mark
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 1:17 AM, johnrobmoore <bigfish@>
> >>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> **
> >> > >
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> What if you try an insert edit on a preblacked tape? Assemble
> >> should
> >> > > still
> >> > > >> work but for the sake of trouble shooting it might reveal more of
> >> the
> >> > > story.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Mark Spano <cutandcover@> wrote:
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > Finds preroll point just fine. Prerolls, then drops into record.
> >> Drops
> >> > > >> right out again, with error.
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > More testing reveals:
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > Same exact sequence performs flawless digital cut with same deck
> >> but
> >> > > >> from system with a Nitris DX, so I'm pretty sure it's a MC<->IO
> >> Express
> >> > > >> thing. All assemble edits, and this only happens with the Digi -
> >> tried
> >> > > an
> >> > > >> SR assemble edit with the IO Express and it went down fine.
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > I'll try flipping the deck to input video ref instead to see if
> >> that
> >> > > >> helps.
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > Maybe a better question now that I have a little more testing in
> >> is:
> >> > > >> anybody with an IO Express able to lay off to a digibeta?
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > Thanks for the suggestions,
> >> > > >> > Mark
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > On Dec 27, 2011, at 4:15 PM, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@> wrote:
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > > I usually get the coincidence point error when the deck is
> >> trying to
> >> > > >> find the preroll point. I think they changed the wording to
> >> include the
> >> > > >> possibility the tape or deck is record inhibited. Any chance of a
> >> > > drop/non
> >> > > >> drop mismatch? Are you insert or assemble editing? Could the deck
> >> be
> >> > > >> regenerating the wrong timecode df/nd when it goes into assemble
> >> edit?
> >> > > For
> >> > > >> giggles see if you can do a proper machine edit while feeding the
> >> deck
> >> > > the
> >> > > >> Avid signal.
> >> > > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Spano" <cutandcover@>
> >> wrote:
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > > Hi folks,
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > > Wonder if any of you have had this issue and how you got
> >> around
> >> > > it.
> >> > > >> I have a current issue Mac Pro running 10.6.8 and MC 5.5.3.1. Have
> >> just
> >> > > >> installed the IO Express and have the 9.0.5 drivers for it, and
> >> using a
> >> > > >> Keyspan adapter for serial control. Everything is working as
> >> expected in
> >> > > MC
> >> > > >> - proper video output, can change settings and lock to reference.
> >> But
> >> > > when
> >> > > >> I go to perform a Digital Cut to a Sony DVW-A500 DigiBeta deck, it
> >> > > >> prerolls, goes into record, and then drops right out. It gives me
> >> an
> >> > > error
> >> > > >> about trying to locate coincidence point on tape. I have checked
> >> this
> >> > > exact
> >> > > >> same setup with FCP on this system using the IO Express and
> >> Keyspan and
> >> > > >> everything goes off without a hitch. Just can't output to tape
> >> with MC.
> >> > > >> Hoping someone here has an idea.
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > > Thanks,
> >> > > >> > > > Mark
> >> > > >> > > >
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