Saturday, October 22, 2011

Re: [Avid-L2] Re: H.264 File Size seems low?

What was their reason for not sending you a ProResHQ version?

James


On Oct 21, 2011, at 9:54 PM, johnrobmoore wrote:

> Saving it from a small original isn't really going to gain me anything. I just want to make sure I'm not getting an inferior product. I'm just not use to a file being this small for 24 secs of 1080I. But from what others have said it's not that uncommon. This is a graphic open title sequence so it shouldn't be delivered in an overly compressed form in my opinion. I can't see any problems with it but they put a bunch of noise effect on the video so it's really hard to tell. A part of me feels like I've just been handed a VHS tape for my graphic master but with a file I can only go by the file size as an indicator of how compressed it might be.
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> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Benjamin Hershleder <Ben@...> wrote:
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> > John, if you're worried, save it out as ProRes HQ.
> >
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> > On Oct 21, 2011, at 9:24 PM, James Culbertson wrote:
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> > > That's not a particularly low data rate for well compressed H.264. Some content at that length could be taken down substantially below 10 MB if it is clean.
> > >
> > > It really depends on a lot of variables.
> > >
> > > James
> > >
> > >
> > > On Oct 21, 2011, at 8:32 PM, johnrobmoore wrote:
> > >
> > >> Finder Info shows the same size as QT. It just seems like a low number for 24 secs of 1080I video.
> > >>
> > >> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Tim McLaughlin <mcltim.156@> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Forget what Quicktime says - what dies the Finder say? Get info on the file.
> > >>>
> > >>> I've found Quicktime to be just flat-out WRONG a lot of the time. The Finder
> > >>> is never wrong.
> > >>> --
> > >>> Tim McLaughlin
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> > >>>
> > >>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 7:02 PM, John Moore <bigfish@> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> **
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I have a 24 second .mov file for final delivery and the file size is 57.60
> > >>>> MB according to QT 7. Format is H.264 1920x1080. Millions AAC. Stereo (LR)
> > >>>> 48.000 KHz
> > >>>> FPS: 29.97. This seems really small for 24 secs of 1080I HD video. This
> > >>>> is video with noise to make it look like a 70's/80's sitcom open. I usually
> > >>>> expect around a gig a minute for full res files, obviously this varies but
> > >>>> my ball park says it should be around 400MB not 57. The video is live
> > >>>> action stuff so it's not some super optimized graphic element. I'm told the
> > >>>> graphics company are young kids so you decide what that means. I said we
> > >>>> need an uncompressed .mov in animation at best or prores. This is for an HD
> > >>>> 1080I 59.94 HDCam delivery to a cable network so I think this file isn't up
> > >>>> to snuff. Given all the noise and grain crap in the video it might not
> > >>>> really make much difference but I want a bigger file to compare. Am I
> > >>>> nuts? I hate to think that the graphics company is trying to save render
> > >>>> time and upload time at the expense of quality. I don't usually think of
> > >>>> H.264 as the proper format to deliver graphic elements for an
> > >>>> online edit but I'm sure there are many flavors of H.264 I'm just use to
> > >>>> getting highly compressed versions for approval. Any insight as to
> > >>>> something I'm overlooking here would be appreciated.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> John Moore
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