Monday, January 31, 2011

Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Canon DSLR Metadata?

I HAVE a Zacuto viewfinder (They're local. Both in Chicago.). I also have a smallHD 5.6 inch DP6 monitor. The problem is OTHER photographers and videographers buying these cameras and misusing them. I'm telling you, unless you control the entire production process you are going to be seeing a lot of DSLR crap. Not because the cameras are bad, but because people don't realize that you can't shoot video with them the same way you shoot stills with them or the same way you shoot video with a dedicated video camera.

Steve Hullfish
contributor: www.provideocoalition.com
author: "The Art and Technique of Digital Color Correction"
co-author: "Color Correction for Video: revised edition," "Avid Xpress Pro Editing Workshop" and "Avid XpressDV On the Spot"
presenter: Class On Demand's "Complete Training for Avid Media Composer" AND "Complete Training for Apple Color"
www.classondemand.net/media/final-cut-training/color01.aspx


On Jan 31, 2011, at 8:15 AM, Bouke wrote:

> Steve,
> get your clients to use a Zacuto viewfinder.
> http://www.zacuto.com/z-finder-dslr-viewfinder
>
> The back of the cam isn't that bad if you get a good look at it.
> I've got one of these, and even while i'm close to blind, i can focus.
> (indeed impossible without one)
>
> Bouke
>
> VideoToolShed
> van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
> 6512 AS NIJMEGEN
> The Netherlands
> +31 24 3553311
> www.videotoolshed.com
> For large files:
> http://dropbox.yousendit.com/BoukeVahl998172
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Hullfish" <steve4lists@veralith.com>
> To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 11:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Canon DSLR Metadata?
>
> > And ANOTHER thing. Please learn how to actually use the video functions
> > and how things look best. I just received a ton of 7D footage from a
> > person who shot in 24fps at about 1/500th of a second shutter speed.
> > Everything looks like a strobe light. People use 24fps because it "looks
> > like film" but then don't realize that film shutter speeds are usually
> > pretty damn slow most of the time. Use 1/40th of a second or 1/60th. Maybe
> > 1/125th at the very most. Also, they shot everything looking at the backs
> > of the fricking camera instead of having a decent sized monitor to judge
> > focus, so fully 80% of the stuff is soft. AND they were clearly video
> > operators so there were all of these "zooms" that were completely
> > unuseable because of the focus and the jerkiness of still zoom lenses that
> > were never meant to do zooms "live."
> >
> > I love the look of some DSLRs when they're in competent hands, but all of
> > us are going to get a ton of absolute crap dumped on us (some of it SHOT
> > by us) if DSLR shooters don't spend some time figuring out the limitations
> > of these cameras.
> >
> > Steve Hullfish
> > contributor: www.provideocoalition.com
> > author: "The Art and Technique of Digital Color Correction"
> > co-author: "Color Correction for Video: revised edition," "Avid Xpress Pro
> > Editing Workshop" and "Avid XpressDV On the Spot"
> > presenter: Class On Demand's "Complete Training for Avid Media Composer"
> > AND "Complete Training for Apple Color"
> > www.classondemand.net/media/final-cut-training/color01.aspx
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:24 PM, Bouke wrote:
> >
> >> :Lou, (and others)
> >> After investing a shitload of money in a DSLR, be prepared to spend 4
> >> times
> >> as much in rigging.
> >> (and a XXX amount in lenses)
> >> If you don't want to do so, you don't want to play ball.
> >> (and yes, it will still be cheaper than just one decent lense for a
> >> normal
> >> cam...)
> >>
> >> Bouke
> >>
> >> VideoToolShed
> >> van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
> >> 6512 AS NIJMEGEN
> >> The Netherlands
> >> +31 24 3553311
> >> www.videotoolshed.com
> >> For large files:
> >> http://dropbox.yousendit.com/BoukeVahl998172
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Lou Wirth" <loutv@mindspring.com>
> >> To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> >> Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 8:27 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Canon DSLR Metadata?
> >>
> >> > Oliver
> >> > These movies are really nice and have a great look. I have shot on and
> >> > off all my life but usually hire crews now. But I did get a 7d, first
> >> > to
> >> > get a good DSLR for home use, but second, to see what all the video
> >> > buzz
> >> > is about. I can see the possibility for great shots but I am always
> >> > frustrated with the difficulty in focus and clumsy handling of the
> >> > camera.
> >> > I'm not crazy about investing another 1.5K in a rig and monitor but I
> >> > can
> >> > see that is what you need to really work the camera as video camera.
> >> >
> >> > But its always inspiring to see great work coming off these cameras.
> >> >
> >> > Lou
> >> > On Jan 30, 2011, at 7:58 AM, oliverpetersvidy wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> John,
> >> >>
> >> >> I think the viability of the camera in a real production environment
> >> >> gets
> >> >> down to the person controlling the camera and how much they intend to
> >> >> accessorize the camera. Here are a number of examples from various
> >> >> projects that I've cut, which were shot with the 5D. Canon lenses and
> >> >> all
> >> >> but one recorded with audio in the camera (using external wireless
> >> >> mics).
> >> >>
> >> >> http://vimeo.com/17966825
> >> >> http://vimeo.com/12515522
> >> >> http://vimeo.com/12515289
> >> >> http://vimeo.com/10638689
> >> >> http://vimeo.com/8981805
> >> >> http://vimeo.com/8932666
> >> >> http://vimeo.com/8750229
> >> >>
> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >> Oliver
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Lou Wirth Productions
> >> > 500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522
> >> > Corte Madera, CA 94925
> >> > www.louwirth.com
> >> > 415-924-9411p
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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