[Avid-L2] Recommendations for upgrading GPU on MacPro 2010

I have a MacPro 2010 5,1 3.33Mhz 2x6 cores, 48GB RAM still running El Capitan and MC 8.10.
Just paid for a BCC upgrade only to find out that I need at least Sierra or High Sierra for that.  Since I'm about to take the plunge and do the dreaded "fix what ain't broken" path, I'm also considering upgrading my current GPU (Radeon 5770 1GB) to a Radeon RX 580 8GB so I can install Mojave.  And, at some point to update to MC 2019 as well.  I'm not in a position to go with a new computer, but can handle the $350 or so for a new GPU.
So I'd like to know if anyone has any advice regarding:
1.  If I just move to High Sierra, will I see any value in changing the GPU to the Radeon RX 580?
2.  Any advantage in running MC on Mojave vs. High Sierra?
3.  Any compatibility issues with my system when I move up to MC2019?
Note: I also use After Effects and Media Encoder - the new GPU might help there, but with 1080 media I mostly edit with, I'm fine with the performance I'm currently getting.
Suggestions welcome! Thanks in advance.
Craig

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Re: [Avid-L2] AVID export to FLIX with animation fails

You could try duplicating the sequence and doing a video Mixdown and replace the VFXs with it. That would make the sequence "AAF friendly" for third parties.

On Sun, 15 Dec 2019, 17:14 Paul Darrigo, <fedguy2@pacbell.net> wrote:

Hi,

We are using Flix and Avid for review/approve/create.

A sequence with PS panels cut on AVID.

AVID exports sequence that has some animation efx on a few panels.

Export .aaf

Ingest into Flix

Panels with animation fail.

Creating QT's of those panels is time consuming.

Is there a way to render or export the .aaf so that the animation effects looks flattened (Non-destructive) to Flix so it will work?

Thanks in advanced,

Paul Darrigo
CHULA - Citizens for a Humane Los Angeles
https://www.facebook.com/groups/773416409436730/
323-244-8020

On Sunday, December 15, 2019, 7:06:43 AM PST, bouke <bouke@editb.nl> wrote:

Get a (refurb) high end (hp) Win 10 workstation for less than 2K, run that and be happy.

Yes, Windows is different, but the times that Mac outperformed Win are over. (By some 20 years.)

Nowadays, Microsoft is 'open', while Apple wants to make money on everything you do, and wants your credit card info even before you turn your machine on.

I don't get why people use Apple. 

Bouke (Who has typed this on a Macbook Pro.)

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On 15 Dec 2019, at 15:51, Dennis Wiener <dwiener@earthlink.net> wrote:

After seven years I think it's time for a hardware upgrade. Problems is a lot of my software will not migrate to Catalina. Does anyone know if any of the following is possible?

Reformat the system drive and install an older OS?
Boot from an external drive running an older OS
Use Bootcamp and run windows10 for some of the legacy software I use?

I know eventually Media Composer will catch up. But I also use Adobe CS6 apps a lot and don't want to be forced over to a cloud subscription. Same with my ancient 2008 MS Office

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Re: [Avid-L2] AVID export to FLIX with animation fails

No.  Avid effects are unique to Avid.  Other software won't understand it.

This is probably true of any NLEs AAF export, unfortunately.

On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 3:14 PM Paul Darrigo <fedguy2@pacbell.net> wrote:

Hi,

We are using Flix and Avid for review/approve/create.

A sequence with PS panels cut on AVID.

AVID exports sequence that has some animation efx on a few panels.

Export .aaf

Ingest into Flix

Panels with animation fail.

Creating QT's of those panels is time consuming.

Is there a way to render or export the .aaf so that the animation effects looks flattened (Non-destructive) to Flix so it will work?

Thanks in advanced,

Paul Darrigo
CHULA - Citizens for a Humane Los Angeles
https://www.facebook.com/groups/773416409436730/
323-244-8020

On Sunday, December 15, 2019, 7:06:43 AM PST, bouke <bouke@editb.nl> wrote:

Get a (refurb) high end (hp) Win 10 workstation for less than 2K, run that and be happy.

Yes, Windows is different, but the times that Mac outperformed Win are over. (By some 20 years.)

Nowadays, Microsoft is 'open', while Apple wants to make money on everything you do, and wants your credit card info even before you turn your machine on.

I don't get why people use Apple. 

Bouke (Who has typed this on a Macbook Pro.)

Edit 'B / VideoToolShed.com
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6512 AS  Nijmegen
+31 6 21817248

On 15 Dec 2019, at 15:51, Dennis Wiener <dwiener@earthlink.net> wrote:

After seven years I think it's time for a hardware upgrade. Problems is a lot of my software will not migrate to Catalina. Does anyone know if any of the following is possible?

Reformat the system drive and install an older OS?
Boot from an external drive running an older OS
Use Bootcamp and run windows10 for some of the legacy software I use?

I know eventually Media Composer will catch up. But I also use Adobe CS6 apps a lot and don't want to be forced over to a cloud subscription. Same with my ancient 2008 MS Office

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Re: [Avid-L2] Are new Mac's that ship with Catalina downgradeble to Mojave or High Sierra?

Ok.  The older 2013 iMacs have a M.2 slot on the logic board unused.       You can put a 512 M.2 (The Apple version) Swap out the HDD to 4 TB enterprise drive and be good for some years.

Good luck

Paul Darrigo
CHULA - Citizens for a Humane Los Angeles
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323-244-8020

On Sunday, December 15, 2019, 1:15:25 PM PST, Dennis Wiener <dwiener@earthlink.net> wrote:

It would be one thing if I owned an old cheese grater, but mine is an iMac. The best I could do would be to pry it open and add an SSD. My memory is currently maxed at at 32gb. The new machines can officially go to 64gb, and unofficially to 128gb. It's at home and I like the all in one design.  I have sitting here barely used a hackentosh I built around the same time. I'd prefer not to have a tower sitting on the floor. I may need to power it up for when I need to use my CS6 apps, or just run them on my zBook laptop when I need to. I have a couple of old clone system drives. One with Mavericks, one with El Capitan. I'll need to create a new on with High Sierra for Avid. I haven't even installed Mojave on this machine yet. And my biggest fear on this old iMac is HDD failure. At 7 years I know that component is pretty close to end of life more than antything else inside.

On Dec 15, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Paul Darrigo <fedguy2@pacbell.net> wrote:

I have a 2009 Cheese grater.  I upgraded the cores to 12 with 3.33Ghz  48 GB RAM and 8 GB video card.  Added USB 3 card, a M.2 card to put a SSD boot (600 mbz per sec)   Took out the DVD player so that I can have 8 drives.

It boots in like 15 seconds.  

I haven't loaded Mojave on it because what I have works so no need.  Cost like $700

Ultimate 12 core Mac Pro Upgrade! Step by Step in 4k

Ultimate 12 core Mac Pro Upgrade! Step by Step in 4k Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the wor...

I've done two Macs so far.  Love them.

Paul Darrigo
CHULA - Citizens for a Humane Los Angeles
https://www.facebook.com/groups/773416409436730/
323-244-8020

Re: [Avid-L2] Are new Mac's that ship with Catalina downgradeble to Mojave or High Sierra?

It would be one thing if I owned an old cheese grater, but mine is an iMac. The best I could do would be to pry it open and add an SSD. My memory is currently maxed at at 32gb. The new machines can officially go to 64gb, and unofficially to 128gb. It's at home and I like the all in one design.  I have sitting here barely used a hackentosh I built around the same time. I'd prefer not to have a tower sitting on the floor. I may need to power it up for when I need to use my CS6 apps, or just run them on my zBook laptop when I need to. I have a couple of old clone system drives. One with Mavericks, one with El Capitan. I'll need to create a new on with High Sierra for Avid. I haven't even installed Mojave on this machine yet. And my biggest fear on this old iMac is HDD failure. At 7 years I know that component is pretty close to end of life more than antything else inside.

On Dec 15, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Paul Darrigo <fedguy2@pacbell.net> wrote:

I have a 2009 Cheese grater.  I upgraded the cores to 12 with 3.33Ghz  48 GB RAM and 8 GB video card.  Added USB 3 card, a M.2 card to put a SSD boot (600 mbz per sec)   Took out the DVD player so that I can have 8 drives.

It boots in like 15 seconds.  

I haven't loaded Mojave on it because what I have works so no need.  Cost like $700

Ultimate 12 core Mac Pro Upgrade! Step by Step in 4k

Ultimate 12 core Mac Pro Upgrade! Step by Step in 4k Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the wor...

I've done two Macs so far.  Love them.

Paul Darrigo
CHULA - Citizens for a Humane Los Angeles
https://www.facebook.com/groups/773416409436730/
323-244-8020

Re: [Avid-L2] Are new Mac's that ship with Catalina downgradeble to Mojave or High Sierra?

I have a 2009 Cheese grater.  I upgraded the cores to 12 with 3.33Ghz  48 GB RAM and 8 GB video card.  Added USB 3 card, a M.2 card to put a SSD boot (600 mbz per sec)   Took out the DVD player so that I can have 8 drives.

It boots in like 15 seconds.  

I haven't loaded Mojave on it because what I have works so no need.  Cost like $700

Ultimate 12 core Mac Pro Upgrade! Step by Step in 4k

Ultimate 12 core Mac Pro Upgrade! Step by Step in 4k Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the wor...

I've done two Macs so far.  Love them.

Paul Darrigo
CHULA - Citizens for a Humane Los Angeles
https://www.facebook.com/groups/773416409436730/
323-244-8020

On Sunday, December 15, 2019, 12:29:19 PM PST, Dennis Wiener <dwiener@earthlink.net> wrote:

Faster processor, more cores, more ram, SSD system drive, thuderbolt 3 vs thunderbolt 1, better gpu with more ram.

On Dec 15, 2019, at 3:07 PM, Paul Darrigo <fedguy2@pacbell.net> wrote:

Dennis,

Why do you want to upgrade?

Paul Darrigo
CHULA - Citizens for a Humane Los Angeles
https://www.facebook.com/groups/773416409436730/
323-244-8020

Re: [Avid-L2] Are new Mac's that ship with Catalina downgradeble to Mojave or High Sierra?

Faster processor, more cores, more ram, SSD system drive, thuderbolt 3 vs thunderbolt 1, better gpu with more ram.

On Dec 15, 2019, at 3:07 PM, Paul Darrigo <fedguy2@pacbell.net> wrote:

Dennis,

Why do you want to upgrade?

Paul Darrigo
CHULA - Citizens for a Humane Los Angeles
https://www.facebook.com/groups/773416409436730/
323-244-8020

[Avid-L2] AVID export to FLIX with animation fails

Hi,

We are using Flix and Avid for review/approve/create.

A sequence with PS panels cut on AVID.

AVID exports sequence that has some animation efx on a few panels.

Export .aaf

Ingest into Flix

Panels with animation fail.

Creating QT's of those panels is time consuming.

Is there a way to render or export the .aaf so that the animation effects looks flattened (Non-destructive) to Flix so it will work?

Thanks in advanced,

Paul Darrigo
CHULA - Citizens for a Humane Los Angeles
https://www.facebook.com/groups/773416409436730/
323-244-8020

On Sunday, December 15, 2019, 7:06:43 AM PST, bouke <bouke@editb.nl> wrote:

Get a (refurb) high end (hp) Win 10 workstation for less than 2K, run that and be happy.

Yes, Windows is different, but the times that Mac outperformed Win are over. (By some 20 years.)

Nowadays, Microsoft is 'open', while Apple wants to make money on everything you do, and wants your credit card info even before you turn your machine on.

I don't get why people use Apple. 

Bouke (Who has typed this on a Macbook Pro.)

Edit 'B / VideoToolShed.com
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6512 AS  Nijmegen
+31 6 21817248

On 15 Dec 2019, at 15:51, Dennis Wiener <dwiener@earthlink.net> wrote:

After seven years I think it's time for a hardware upgrade. Problems is a lot of my software will not migrate to Catalina. Does anyone know if any of the following is possible?

Reformat the system drive and install an older OS?
Boot from an external drive running an older OS
Use Bootcamp and run windows10 for some of the legacy software I use?

I know eventually Media Composer will catch up. But I also use Adobe CS6 apps a lot and don't want to be forced over to a cloud subscription. Same with my ancient 2008 MS Office

Re: [Avid-L2] Are new Mac's that ship with Catalina downgradeble to Mojave or High Sierra?

Dennis,

Why do you want to upgrade?

Paul Darrigo
CHULA - Citizens for a Humane Los Angeles
https://www.facebook.com/groups/773416409436730/
323-244-8020

On Sunday, December 15, 2019, 7:06:43 AM PST, bouke <bouke@editb.nl> wrote:

Get a (refurb) high end (hp) Win 10 workstation for less than 2K, run that and be happy.

Yes, Windows is different, but the times that Mac outperformed Win are over. (By some 20 years.)

Nowadays, Microsoft is 'open', while Apple wants to make money on everything you do, and wants your credit card info even before you turn your machine on.

I don't get why people use Apple. 

Bouke (Who has typed this on a Macbook Pro.)

Edit 'B / VideoToolShed.com
van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
6512 AS  Nijmegen
+31 6 21817248

On 15 Dec 2019, at 15:51, Dennis Wiener <dwiener@earthlink.net> wrote:

After seven years I think it's time for a hardware upgrade. Problems is a lot of my software will not migrate to Catalina. Does anyone know if any of the following is possible?

Reformat the system drive and install an older OS?
Boot from an external drive running an older OS
Use Bootcamp and run windows10 for some of the legacy software I use?

I know eventually Media Composer will catch up. But I also use Adobe CS6 apps a lot and don't want to be forced over to a cloud subscription. Same with my ancient 2008 MS Office