Monday, December 9, 2013

[Avid-L2] Re: A new to me approach to ama linking?

 

It may not be rocket science but after several cluster flops that land in my lap in online I'm leery when being told a new way to go about things. By the time I get involved in online the boat has already sailed into a S%@* storm. This current project has been relatively smooth and I attribute it to this relinking of the original ama clips to the transcoded media. That seems to be the golden ticket of course as you point out there will always be a few kinks along the way.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Pat Horridge" <pat@...> wrote:
>
> It's important to differentiate between proper tapeless content like P2
> XDCAM red etc. which has a UMID and stuff like the 5D and other simple QT
> content.
>
> If you have content with the UMID then MC can track it and you have robust
> media management. If you don't then you have to fall back to unique file
> names and locations.
>
> Re-wrapping content for various reasons is a classic issue that strips out
> metadata the editor isn't bothered with but also risks stripping the UMID.
>
>
>
> The dance folks do with the forcing relinks is just that a dance and it more
> often than not just causes confusion later down the line.
>
>
>
> Tapeless workflows aren't rocket science. Just test the workflow. And then
> apply it. Don't re-invent the wheel as the job progresses.
>
>
>
> And last of all be prepared for some shots to just not play ball at re-link
> time. Fact is that just happens. You can spend hours trying to work out why
> or armed with clip name, source file name and last known path as well as a
> timecode you can over cut in seconds.
>
> The jobs about the finished product not the mechanics of how it happens.
>
> Pat Horridge
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Re: [Avid-L2] Capture Manager cues but not recording

 

Did you have an Adrienne timecode card in the SR2500? CM needs to sync to timecode, so it's probably looking for that...just a guess though.
 
 
 

From: jay jones <jayjones433@yahoo.co.uk>
To: "Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 8, 2013 1:13 PM
Subject: [Avid-L2] Capture Manager cues but not recording
 
Hi  All
 
I haven't been here for a while, I'm hoping someone could help with a capture manager issue, original CM on intel SR2500 is no more, rebuilt on DL360 which looks ok but when starting an instant record, the GUI just sits there cueing.
 
Unsure of where the issue lies, re-installed SQL 2005 with mediabrowse DB etc, all looks the same as the other CM but will not record.
 
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks in advance.


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Re: [Avid-L2] RE: Avid Customer Association?

 


On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 6:03 AM, <switthaus@mac.com> wrote:
"Hey folks. I had nothing to do with this turd.  I am using this big stick to roll this turd over to the person who's terrible idea started it.  Take it away Kelli and good luck!"

["like" button clicked]


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Re: [Avid-L2] A new to me approach to ama linking?

 

Rewrapping through many of the programs actually allows you to ADD the metadata and UMID information. But I agree that in many cases this rewrap loses the information.


Steve

On Dec 9, 2013, at 3:54 AM, Pat Horridge <pat@horridge.org.uk> wrote:

 

It's important to differentiate between proper tapeless content like P2 XDCAM red etc. which has a UMID and stuff like the 5D and other simple QT content.

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[Avid-L2] RE: Avid Customer Association?

 

Gotta love Marianna's intro to this marketing gaffe.  I can almost read between the lines in that she is really saying "Hey folks. I had nothing to do with this turd.  I am using this big stick to roll this turd over to the person who's terrible idea started it.  Take it away Kelli and good luck!"


Well done MM.  Stay clear!

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[Avid-L2] Re: A new to me approach to ama linking?

 

It’s important to differentiate between proper tapeless content like P2 XDCAM red etc. which has a UMID and stuff like the 5D and other simple QT content.

If you have content with the UMID then MC can track it and you have robust media management. If you don’t then you have to fall back to unique file names and locations.

Re-wrapping content for various reasons is a classic issue that strips out metadata the editor isn’t bothered with but also risks stripping the UMID.

 

The dance folks do with the forcing relinks is just that a dance and it more often than not just causes confusion later down the line.

 

Tapeless workflows aren’t rocket science. Just test the workflow. And then apply it. Don’t re-invent the wheel as the job progresses.

 

And last of all be prepared for some shots to just not play ball at re-link time. Fact is that just happens. You can spend hours trying to work out why or armed with clip name, source file name and last known path as well as a timecode you can over cut in seconds.

The jobs about the finished product not the mechanics of how it happens.

Pat Horridge
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VET
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Sunday, December 8, 2013

Re: [Avid-L2] Centralized Storage

This is just a bizarre way to have this set up. It's as if they couldn't think outside the original method of everyone having their own local drives. Sure, it "works" but the question is does it work OPTIMALLY? Why have back ups for separate rooms? The way this is set up makes media management much more difficult and finding stuff more difficult. I would NOT advise that anyone else follow this methodology. Of course, each to his own, but that doesn't mean it's right.

Steve Hullfish

On Dec 8, 2013, at 6:34 PM, Zach Scott <zachscott776@yahoo.com> wrote:

> How we have it set up with the 6 partitions is shown below.
>
> EDIT 1
> EDIT 2
> EDIT 3
> MEDIA BACKUP 1
> MEDIA BACKUP 2
> MEDIA BACKUP 3


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Re: [Avid-L2] Centralized Storage

How we have it set up with the 6 partitions is shown below.

EDIT 1
EDIT 2
EDIT 3
MEDIA BACKUP 1
MEDIA BACKUP 2
MEDIA BACKUP 3

All of the Avid Media Files live in the EDIT partitions. The Project Files live in the MEDIA BACKUP partitions as well as all of the elements associated with the projects (raw footage, music, etc…)

This is how it was set up when I started here. I believe they do it to keep all of the avids running smooth when they are all being used.


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On Dec 6, 2013, at 1:52 PM, Steve Hullfish <steve4lists@veralith.com> wrote:

> Zach -
>
> When Greg says "interesting strategy" what I think he means is "that's nuts."
>
> What is the point of the 6 partitions? Does specialized stuff go to each partition? Or does each editor have their own partition.
>
> Greg's strategy is a pretty basic strategy for the way Unity and ISIS configurations are suggested. It makes a lot of sense. A lot of places that I've freelanced either already had this strategy (Greg's) when I started working there, or I suggested it and they adopted it it and kept it that way.
>
> Project-based partitioning is a pretty good idea. Clearly, it isn't the ONLY way to do it, but I'd say it's the most common. One of the big reasons for it is the archiving aspect, which is probably the most important reason.
>
> Steve
>
> On Dec 6, 2013, at 1:44 PM, Greg Huson <Greg@SecretHQ.com> wrote:
>
>> Wow - interesting strategy.
>>
>> We literally make a separate virtual drive for each project - sometimes multiple drives. I believe there's a way to dynamically resize 'drives' (partitions, actually,) but that didn't work correctly for us when it was first added to the software, so we've never tried it since. (Typical producer mentality, right? I never think of myself that way, and yet, there's the evidence, right there...) Because it's raid 5, even though it's not Avid-recommended, we also put the project folder on the terrablock media drive.
>>
>> Anyway, when a project / episode is finished, we archive the entire virtual drive to spinning media and LTO (which facilis can manage for you, but we don't use that part of their software.) For episodic stuff, if we're also doing the offline, then we keep a 'show generic' partition that also includes all the graphics, open, regularly used stuff - so that we can archive an episode before the entire season is complete. You have to be careful about not cross-colateralizing your materials if you use our strategy.
>>
>> Facilis has customized a lot of different work flows for a lot of different companies - definitely get them to pitch you. There's a way you can get two full systems that mirror each other - or, if you need crazy 4-k speed, you can create a partition - virtual drive - stripped across all 24 spindles (or 48 spindles if you have two systems!!)
>>
>> gh
>> ----------------------------------------------------
>> Greg Huson
>> Secret Headquarters, Inc
>> Post Production / Production
>> Culver City, CA
>> 323 677 2092
>> www.DigitalServiceStation.com
>> greg (at) SecretHQ.com
>> www.SecretHQ.com
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>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 6, 2013, at 10:40 AM, Zach Scott <zachscott776@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Greg pretty much covered it!
>>>
>>> We are a mixture of PC and MAC over at my facility and everything works flawlessly.
>>> We have it configured into 6 partitions that show up as 6 drives on our desktop. We hold 5-10 shows and projects on each drive.
>>>
>>>
>>> Zach Scott
>>> Editor
>>> New Chapter Entertainment
>>> 1644 North Honore, Suite: 303
>>> Chicago, IL 60622
>>> O: 312-216-8726
>>> zachscott776@yahoo.com
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>>>
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[Avid-L2] Re: Avid Customer Association?

 

"Get them liquored up and they'll tell you everything you need to know."

Well if this is truly the case Avid missed a huge marketing chance with me in the late 90's. I would have told them everything they did and didn't need to know regardless of whether they asked me or not. You might say I spent the end of the 90's in my own personal customer appreciation stupor. ;-) It's always 5 O'clock somewhere right?

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Richard Tibbetts <huipro@...> wrote:
>
> This is pure marketing speak.
>
> A program meant to defray the cost of delivering something we already get for free, and much of the time is of questionable value at that price.
>
> Better to just throw a great NAB party and sell tickets. Avid customers would respond.
>
> Get them liquored up and they'll tell you everything you need to know.
>
> RT
>

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[Avid-L2] Re: A new to me approach to ama linking?

 

So is it proper to assume that in this workflow where they relink the original ama clips to the newly transcoded media Avid is somehow referencing the UMID to link the media? Given the only choices I see for relinking in V6 are based on Tape and Time Code or KN numbers I don't see how this is relinking but it clearly does. I figure the more I know about the nature of the beast the better I can trouble shoot when things go awry. I've seen a lot of brute force over cutting done with ama based projects and it just seems like on these projects nobody is taking the time to correct workflow errors and just relying on over cutting when things don't work.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Steve Hullfish <steve4lists@...> wrote:
>
> UMID is not something YOU get to see. It's an under-the-hood thing. That is indeed how Avid deals with the "uniqueness" of any media. This UMID follows the media throughout Avid. I'm looking for the transcript I have of an interview I did with some of the Avid MXF/AMA experts, including Ian Krabacher, for my upcoming Avid book.
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> On Dec 7, 2013, at 9:27 PM, johnrobmoore <bigfish@...> wrote:
>
> > I don't see UMID in the columns headers choices. Am I missing it or does it exist only in certain project types? Perhaps it's not something that can be viewed in a bin?
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Re: [Avid-L2] RE: Avid Customer Association?

 

They don't want to hear what they need to know. They want to hear what
they want to hear. --J.B.

Tony Quinsee-Jover wrote:
> And probably a good deal more besides...
>
> T.
>
>
>
>> On 8 Dec 2013, at 21:25, Richard Tibbetts<huipro@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> Get them liquored up and they'll tell you everything you need to know
>>
>
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Re: [Avid-L2] RE: Avid Customer Association?

 

And probably a good deal more besides...

T.

> On 8 Dec 2013, at 21:25, Richard Tibbetts <huipro@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
>
> Get them liquored up and they'll tell you everything you need to know

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Re: [Avid-L2] RE: Avid Customer Association?

 

This is pure marketing speak. 

A program meant to defray the cost of delivering something we already get for free, and much of the time is of questionable value at that price.

Better to just throw a great NAB party and sell tickets.  Avid customers would respond. 

Get them liquored up and they'll tell you everything you need to know. 

RT

On Dec 8, 2013, at 6:30 AM, <jonathansabrams@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

The following has had some content snipped for brevity and making a point.  The essence of the message has not been changed.


---In avid-l2@yahoogroups.com, <marianna.montague@...> wrote:


Hello everyone….

 

We all have been reading a lot of chatter on the new Avid Customer Association (ACA) over the last few days.   The ACA is a new way of communicating with our customers.  I have sent your comments to the program director, Keli Callaghan,  and here is her reply.


Marianna

marianna.montague@...

813-493-6800 ©


------------------


All,


You may have questions when you receive this communication, so it is important that you take a look at the brief FAQ (below).   I also encourage you to read through the full registration site.


Thank you in advance for your support,


Keli Callaghan

Director, Customer Association
Avid

keli.callaghan@...


FAQs


Q. If I do not attend Avid Connect, can I still be an active ACA member? What is the annual membership fee?

A. We would love to have you join us at Avid Connect, but if you can't make it, yes, you will still be welcome to join the ACA. We will be providing more information about becoming an ACA member apart from the Avid Connect event in the near future. The annual fee to participate in the ACA will be $100, with membership benefits including:


- Access to a future ACA portal for association-related discussion, interaction and best practices (not to be confused with Avid's existing online communities and forums which are open to all Avid customers)

- Ongoing interaction, networking and exposure to professional industry peers

- Access to insights and shared experiences from the world's premier media companies

- Access to Avid Leadership on a consistent level through focused Advisory Councils

- Ability to provide ongoing and regular feedback to Avid about specific business and organizational requirements

  

Q:  If I do not pay to join the ACA am I still a member of the Avid Community?

A:  Absolutely. Every Avid customer is automatically part of the Avid community, with full access to our online communities and forums, as well as all of the communications and updates we make on a regular basis. We are introducing this new association for our customers who would like to even more actively engage with Avid and participate more directly in influencing our future direction. The benefits of being part of the ACA include:


- Access to a future ACA portal for association-related discussion, interaction and best practices (not to be confused with Avid's existing online communities and forums which are open to all Avid customers).

- Ongoing interaction, networking and exposure to professional industry peers

- Access to insights and shared experiences from the world's premier media companies

- Access to Avid Leadership on a consistent level through focused Advisory Councils

- Ability to provide ongoing and regular feedback to Avid about specific business and organizational requirements


--

Am I the only person who noticed that both questions, which are different, have the same answer?  The "If I do not pay to join the ACA am I still a member of the Avid Community?" could have had its answer end with "as well as all of the communications and updates we make on a regular basis."  I am uncertain if this is a lack of proofreading or a subtle way of talking up the ACA at every possible moment.

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