Re: [Avid-L2] Betacam to Kona LHi issues

Good luck with this.  I'll add one quick note from Ted Churchill's 1980
"Steadicam Operator's Manual of Style."  In the chapter on maintenance,
Ted wrote, "...the problem is always in a cable." Forty years later,
Ted's advice still proves to be correct in a lot of cases.  Definitely
wiggle all those component video cables and make sure they're making
good contact.  --J.B.

Dave Spraker wrote:
>
> I will be back on site tomorrow with a sync generator.  The have one
> but it's in a VERY old studio.  I hope that's what it is.
>
> - Dave
>
> dave@spraker.tv <mailto:dave@spraker.tv>
>
> (971) 267-7661
>
> *From:* Avid-L2@groups.io <Avid-L2@groups.io> *On Behalf Of *John Moore
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 7, 2021 2:14 PM
> *To:* Avid-L2@groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [Avid-L2] Betacam to Kona LHi issues
>
> I missed the part in ( )s that the underlying file is in color.  I
> thought it meant the card output was in color but the capture in Avid
> was black and white.  Now that my memory has been jogged I recall
> component capture etc... often required a sync reference on several
> systems.  Did adding sync fix the monitoring problem?
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 08:04 PM, Mark Spano wrote:
>
> Why do people keep asking this question? Isn't it clear the OP has
> a Beta deck, not a Digi Beta deck?
>
> I think the problem is also not being addressed at all. Color
> captures show up monochrome inside MC? Nothing about component,
> composite, or whatever could explain that. What codec is this
> being captured to? Try another codec, or try another version of
> MC. This sounds like a software bug or a codec issue.
>
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 7:16 PM Jo's Mailinglists
> <lists@filter-media.net <mailto:lists@filter-media.net>> wrote:
>
> All of those tbh.
>
> That doesn't make me: a rich person. (I'm not)
>
> Anyway: why digitize a BetaSP off an BetaSP-deck? Older and
> current digiBeta should be able to read and output via SDI.
>
> Why fiddling around with component off a Beta deck?
>
> Just asking. No offense.
>
> On 7. Apr 2021, at 00:28, Dave Spraker <avid@spraker.tv
> <mailto:avid@spraker.tv>> wrote:
>
> If it's what you own…
>
> - Dave
>
> dave@spraker.tv <mailto:dave@spraker.tv>
>
> (971) 267-7661
>
> *From:* Avid-L2@groups.io
> <mailto:Avid-L2@groups.io> <Avid-L2@groups.io
> <mailto:Avid-L2@groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Jo's Mailinglists
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 6, 2021 3:28 PM
> *To:* Integration <Avid-L2@groups.io
> <mailto:Avid-L2@groups.io>>
> *Subject:* Re: [Avid-L2] Betacam to Kona LHi issues
>
> Folks!
>
> Why would you utilize a Beta-Deck for digitizing?
>
> Take the easy way: go digi
>
>  - my 2¢
>
> On 6. Apr 2021, at 23:50, John Moore
> <bigfish@pacbell.net <mailto:bigfish@pacbell.net>> wrote:
>
> " AJA also passes the component out via SDI to a
> monitor."  Does this mean you are feeding component
> into the LHi card?  The fact that it's black and white
> really sounds like the card is only seeing the Y of
> the Y, R-Y, B-Y component signals.
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 01:23 PM, Dave Spraker wrote:
>
> John –
>
> What I was trying to say is that the SDI input
> into the AJA works correctly.  AJA also passes the
> component out via SDI to a monitor.
>
> - Dave
>
> dave@spraker.tv <mailto:dave@spraker.tv>
>
> (971) 267-7661
>
> *From:* Avid-L2@groups.io
> <mailto:Avid-L2@groups.io> <Avid-L2@groups.io
> <mailto:Avid-L2@groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *John Moore
> *Sent:* Monday, April 5, 2021 10:19 PM
> *To:* Avid-L2@groups.io <mailto:Avid-L2@groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [Avid-L2] Betacam to Kona LHi issues
>
> How is the Betacam deck connected? There is no SDI
> on a betacam.  Are you feeding component into the
> LHi?.  If it's component it sounds like the card
> is only getting the Y of the Y, R-Y, B-Y signals. 
> There is also betacam component vs. regular
> component if memory serves me.  That had more to
> do with levels IIRC. Perhaps there are settings in
> the aja control panel or the cabling is
> incorrect.  I would think you could feed the LHi
> straight composite by setting the control panel. 
> I haven't been on an aja box/card in a while.  If
> I had to guess I'd say the card was being fed
> composite but the control panel was set up for
> component of some sort.
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 03:10 PM, Dave Spraker wrote:
>
> Any AJA users out there?
>
> Customer is running a recent version of Media
> Composer 2018.14 on a new Dell Precision 7920
> tower with AJA Kona LHi.
>
> Works fine with SDI.
>
> When connected to a Betacam deck it does the
> following:
>
> - SD 525i ingest displays in Avid as black and
> white (although the underlying file is in
> color and exports correctly)
>
> - 1080i upconvert was the workaround before,
> now it displays a mishmash of video garbage
>
> SDI feeds of both to a monitor (from the Kona
> BOB) look fine.
>
> I am bringing in a reference generator and a
> standalone component to SDI converter to
> troubleshoot but curious if anyone has
> seen/solved before.
>
> - Dave
>
> dave@spraker.tv <mailto:dave@spraker.tv>
>
> (971) 267-7661
>
>




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