SanMP is just software that works a lot like the old FibreJet. It allows volumes to be mounted as read, write or both. Only one computer can have write access at a time. It's function is like Terrablock before it offered project sharing etc... But it's not a server it's just software that puts some info on each drive/volume on the network to manage access. There is no central server.
We do have a Nexis but it's not big enough and in my mind it's not fast enough for a robust 4K workflow. Perhaps if it was reconfigured to give a few stations 10gig ethernet 4K would be more robust but the cost of storage on Nexis is way more than the simple addition of JBODs.
I realize Fibre is not in favor these days but it is what we already have along with all the SanMP Client dongles so if we were starting from scratch Fibre wouldn't be in the conversation but it's what we already have.
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I don't know anything about SanMP - we use Facilis. I think fibre is kind of out of vogue.
Facilis has the best methods for adding more storage to their systems, so logic would have it that SanMP would be the go-to for that, too, No?
In the case of facilis you can: 1)- replace the drives with bigger drives or 2) - add a sort of 'side car' chassis to the server that connects by SAS I think(?) or 3) - (and this is what most people do) simply add another server. The multiple servers are all connected to the switch so they see each other and everyone gets along fine. You can even 'stripe' across multiple servers for max bandwidth (?)
Another option might be to hang a cheap, big-ass SAS or firewire raid off an assistant's station and sort of make it 'near line.' That's a PITA and slightly risky because you'd be moving media on and off the shared storage as needed. [We used this approach for our standup series last year: left all the camera raw on a raid-zero SAS (backed up elsewhere, would have done raid 5 but I didn't have enough storage overhead) attached to my online system, so it didn't fill up our shared storage, then made DNx36 proxy for editing. Match-back and online was done with Resolve on my system, but you could use a similar approach with Media Composer.]
I'm pretty sure Zelin is all about the Q-Nap these days, which is dirt cheap and massively expandable, like petabytes, I think, but that would mean replacing your storage completely and your fibre with 10gigE. Plus, each client needs a copy of Indiestor Mimiq to emulate the 'unity experience.' I haven't tried this myself.
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Facilis has the best methods for adding more storage to their systems, so logic would have it that SanMP would be the go-to for that, too, No?
In the case of facilis you can: 1)- replace the drives with bigger drives or 2) - add a sort of 'side car' chassis to the server that connects by SAS I think(?) or 3) - (and this is what most people do) simply add another server. The multiple servers are all connected to the switch so they see each other and everyone gets along fine. You can even 'stripe' across multiple servers for max bandwidth (?)
Another option might be to hang a cheap, big-ass SAS or firewire raid off an assistant's station and sort of make it 'near line.' That's a PITA and slightly risky because you'd be moving media on and off the shared storage as needed. [We used this approach for our standup series last year: left all the camera raw on a raid-zero SAS (backed up elsewhere, would have done raid 5 but I didn't have enough storage overhead) attached to my online system, so it didn't fill up our shared storage, then made DNx36 proxy for editing. Match-back and online was done with Resolve on my system, but you could use a similar approach with Media Composer.]
I'm pretty sure Zelin is all about the Q-Nap these days, which is dirt cheap and massively expandable, like petabytes, I think, but that would mean replacing your storage completely and your fibre with 10gigE. Plus, each client needs a copy of Indiestor Mimiq to emulate the 'unity experience.' I haven't tried this myself.
gh
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Greg Huson
Chief
Secret Headquarters, Inc
Production / Post Production
Culver City, CA
323 677 2092
www.SecretHQ.com
t @SecretHQinc
> On May 1, 2019, at 5:04 PM, bigfish@... [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Typo we would need 64 TB or more in total storage.
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> ---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <bigfish@...> wrote :
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> As we had into a 4K series at work we are looking into additional storage. We have an existing Fibre network with SanMP and the typical Avid 5200 switch, I forget if it's QLogic but it matches the kind we have for our old Unity Media Net 5 systems. I'm not at work now to see the exact model but it's the one I see on lots of unities from back in the day.
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> I work primarily off a Fibernetix JBOD for online. The idea would be to add a JBOD that has fibre connectivity to the existing SanMP network so multiple stations could access it for initial card offload and multiple stations for transcoding from the common bit bucket of copied and checksum Camera Original Files.
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> Apparently there is little to no storage budget, big surprise. We have looked at an Aberdeen solution and they have Direct Attached Storage solutions but anything with Fibre seems much pricier that USB 3 or thunderbolt. I guess this is just the nature of the beast but curious if anyone has seen cost effective fibre solutions that might work with our SanMP infrastructure? I would think week need 64GB or probably more to store the camera original.
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> Any pointers welcome.
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> John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@...
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