I agree Avid is more solid moving things around than other NLEs in my limited experience with other NLE workflows.
I'm pretty sure thinking back that I inadvertently did a relink to all available drives when I had the sequence open in the other project when I had the original sequence media offline and perhaps that somehow reset the sequence to think it was somehow linked to the original ama clips even though the actual source clips were still linked to the DNxHR HQX transcoded media. As I posted in past I've deleted imported media for a clip and it goes offline but the upper track safe color limit effect stays render. It is only when I reimport the clip does the upper track go unrendered. I feel this is sort of the core thing that is happening to me.
I rarely open the sequence bin in another project but I definitely have done it many times on my series work without these issues. I can only conclude that my inadvertent relink while in the other project caused the issue. Now that I've rerendered in the original project it is playing nice like usual.
I miss the safe color ability of the old Meridian systems too. I know Safe Color Limit effect has it's quirks but it's the devil I've grown to know. I personally use it as a guide when tweaking color using the relational color correction to see how many other shots I'm effecting. Granted that isn't the original intent of the effect but in practice I've come to rely on it to avoid the uncertainty of how color changes will ripple and effect other sections in the sequence.
---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <pale.edit@...> wrote :
On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 7:16 AM Sol Fischler sol.fischler@... [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:John --
You've gone through a lot of steps to find unrendered efx media -- all I can say is, on occasion (not exactly "regularly," but more often than I'd like) -- one of two things will happen to me:
Sometimes, I'll render several tracks of video, only at the end of the process they still show up as unrendered, and behave as such (bad playback, etc.) Multiple renders doesn't help. A relaunch of Avid brings them online, but still a pain in the lower quarters.
The other is moving a project from one room to another. Often we'll assemble a show in one room and bring it to another, identically configured Avid room, only to have all the effects come in unrendered. Sometimes, just sections. For a while. Sometimes, the longer we work on the sequence, the more effects will gradually come back.
Why? I don't know. But it doesn't surprise me anymore.
PC-based Avid 8.4, shared ISIS storage, 1920x1080. Go figure.
-- Sol -------------------------------------------------Sol FischlerEditor: Image & Sound914-525-2579www.solfischler.com
From: "John Moore bigfish@... [Avid-L2]" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
To: Yahoogroups <avid-l2@yahoogroups.com>; Yahoogroups <editing-list@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 10:24 PM
Subject: [Avid-L2] Odd loss of Safe Color Upper Track Render?
Working on multiple projects in 4K ville. I finished one and had completely rendered an upper track safe color limit. Over the weekend I worked on another 4K project and opened the finished project sequence in the new project to cut in some common elements of Bars to slate and open animation and also some end logos. I consolidated that media to the new volume for the new show.
Today when I opened up the finished show it it's own project the safe color was unrendered. I had archived the project so when I opened the archived sequence the safe color renders were present. I duplicated that working sequence and then did some relinking tests and if I relink the sequence to the source media volumes the safe color unrenders. There is no duplicate media and I've been very careful where the source and render media is placed.
If I sub sequence the safe color track and show rendered effects I can see the render media is still online but for some reason when I relink the sequence to the various storage volumes different sections of the safe color become unrendered and if I relink to all drives the entire safe color track gets unrendered. Going back to the archived sequence shows all the renders in place. It's almost like when I had the sequence open in the other project I might have said relink when I didn't have the media online and the sequence decide to relink to offline media that was not present. The sequence still has the source media online so I don't see what is really going on. I have seen in the past that if I delete an imported clip the upper track safe color does not unrendered when I delete the media. The imported clip will show offline the the safe color will still show video and render. It's when I reimport the file that the safe color goes unrendered. I'm thinking something similar to this may have have happened. Kinda like because the media was ama linked transcodes when I accidentally told the sequence to relink with no media online it reverted to linking to the ama original files and when I go back to the original project it shows as unrendered. This might explain why the archived sequence still had the render but when I copy that sequence and do a relink again the safe color goes offline.
I bit the bullet and went back to the first project and deleted the render media by actually deleting not just clearing renders and then when I rerender if I relink the sequnce I no longer have the safe color track becoming unrendered. It seems what ever I did created some sort of mob conflict and while I could stick with the archive sequence and have the renders stay the iffyness of it makes it worth a rerender.
Haven't run into this kind of head scratchier in a long time. I just don't understand why when I subsequence the safe color track and display rendered effects they are shown as online but clearly some part of the mob data is telling the sequence to break the render link.Any thoughts I should be mulling over besides a new career in Bait and Tackle? I hear earth worms don't require plugins or media management. ;-) John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@... #yiv0087719016 #yiv0087719016 -- #yiv0087719016ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv0087719016 #yiv0087719016ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv0087719016 #yiv0087719016ygrp-mkp #yiv0087719016hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv0087719016 #yiv0087719016ygrp-mkp #yiv0087719016ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv0087719016 #yiv0087719016ygrp-mkp .yiv0087719016ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv0087719016 #yiv0087719016ygrp-mkp .yiv0087719016ad p {margin:0;}#yiv0087719016 #yiv0087719016ygrp-mkp .yiv0087719016ad a {color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv0087719016 #yiv0087719016ygrp-sponsor #yiv0087719016ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv0087719016 #yiv0087719016ygrp-sponsor #yiv0087719016ygrp-lc #yiv0087719016hd {margin:10px 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