Sunday, September 24, 2017

Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Feature request

 

I am proficient in Avid and am starting to dabble more in Resolve.  I've used Premiere to migrate a Premiere project to Avid a year or so ago and I battled all along the way.  The bottom line for me is if I don't live a piece of software day in and day out like I do with Avid it's hard to feel comfortable.

I know I waited a long time to jump onto Avid as my linear bay was rock solid at the time and Avid was barely getting into broadcast quality but I was fortunate to get to learn Avid online from the ground up.  Now it's hard to step back into novice mode on the other apps but there is no avoiding it at some point.  I've recently been trying to test an xml workflow from FCPX to Resolve.  I know this is supposedly a robust workflow but when I bring in the xml some of the clips are offline.  I don't know if it is just a media compatibility issue as this is just a test with some pretty poor offline media.  I see the sequence but then I find that I can't quit Resolve if I look at the sequence in the edit page, or anywhere else.  I have to force quit.  I took an Avid 4K project and aaf'd into Resolve and I don't have a problem quitting.  So something about the FCPX xml or the offline media doesn't crash Resolve 12.5 but I have to force quit, strange.  I'm left with the option to tell the offline folks to uprezz and just give me a baked file I can parse from an xml or edl, not sure which is better for parsing.  I would think the xml and all the layers might confuse the basic parsing where as an edl for V1, if that's even proper nomenclature for FCPX with it's compond clips etc...  I figure a baked out file will eliminate any translation issues of resizes, motion effect etc... 

I have a fellow experienced online editor who is proficient in Resolve and on his MacBook Pro laptop, 13 inch, he said when he did a project in Resolve 14 the playback was stuttery and problematic but when he back reved to 12.5 on the same laptop the playback problems went away.  Now this is exactly the opposite of what I've heard at NAB and since then.  Resolve 14 is supposed to be much snappier overall.  I also hear the term optimized media and I don't know if that is some sort of rewrapping of media so it plays better in Resolve.  I'm going to have to keep researching this.  All these little bugs and annoyances just make me want to stay in Avid and live with symphony color correction or use the baselight plugin but then I have to learn baselight.  I've heard baselight is different from Resolve as far as interface overall so then it comes down to where I want to put my energy into.  Resolve seems to have more traction with it's free version etc... but I like you am tired of having to relearn new workflows that often times are seemingly less efficient than what I know has worked for almost 2 decades.  Can't stand still but which way to run, argggh.



---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <cutandcover@...> wrote :

I gotta say - yes, the advances Premiere and Resolve have made over the past few years are astonishing.

AND YET

Media Composer is a better straight up editor. Tell me how solid any of these other apps feel to you in comparison? Everything I try in Premiere feels so much looser than editing in Media Composer. I feel like I'm about to lose my edge on keeping up with these things because I can not stand the 'feel' of them. Premiere feels like an amateur editor wrapped in a super feature powered app. And don't get me started on trying to do any serious onlining in Premiere. Ganging monitors and switching back and forth between source and record to match things is preposterously terrible - in ANY app besides Media Composer. Trying to determine effects usage in an offline to bring them into an online is cumbersome and dangerously inept compared to MC. Audio! It is so terrible I can't imagine anyone is doing any serious (show/feature) finishing in Premiere. The toolset there is limiting (I should say handcuffing) and primitive in comparison.

Sorry for the rant. I love a lot about what these apps are doing and trying to do. Premiere is about to roll out the ability to have multiple projects open, like the old FCP. That alone is a huge feature worthy of keeping faith that they're working on doing the right thing. But in all seriousness, if you want to talk about professional editorial finishing tools, nothing touches Media Composer. 

On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 8:55 PM, bigfish@... [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

I've heard of plenty of problems with Resolve 14 from experienced users.  I can't speak first hand as I'm on Resolve 12.5 for now.  I set my Avid to auto Save every 3 minutes and it never takes me a minute to wait.  Even in 4K.  In the past I've had bins that would take a long time to save but hasn't been that time consuming.  I feel your pain and it's why I auto save often and still let it save after every render.



---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <Greg@...> wrote :

I could put up with the regular crashes if Media Composer had background save. Resolve added automatic constant background saving in this version. It's just always saving, never interrupts what you're doing. Just saying.

I used to love cutting on media composer, but there's nothing more frustrating than when you're 'in the zone,' completely oblivious to your hardware, and media composer just decides to take a break. Uhg. Don't blame my install, don't blame my version, don't blame the era of computer I'm using, don't blame my autosave duration (who wants to wait a full minute for saving every time autosave comes on?) We should no longer need a work around for this issue. This is just not a modern problem.

Rant over. I'll now spend 15 minutes redoing the edits I made 20 minutes ago.

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