Monday, February 13, 2017

Re: [Avid-L2] UK shoot 25Fps vs. 23.98?

 

If this ends up 25fps, why would you ingest in a 25fps project?  Are they shooting tape?

If not, just Link in your 23.976 project and opt to keep the original frame rate when you transcode to Avid media.  You'll get the same lovely motion adapter.  Yes, you will have a bit of ghosting due to the frame rate difference.  How bad it is depends on the motion in the clip, but you knew that already.


J


On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 5:42 PM Jay Mahavier jay_mahavier@earthlink.net [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Who's paying for it?  I think that's who gets to decide the frame rate it's shot at.


Jay



On Feb 13, 2017, at 4:28 PM, Bouke bouke@editb.nl [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



Asking them that would be extremely arrogant.
The issue is as big for them as it is for you. (Or little, depending on how you look at it.)
If they need it also, why should they do a speed up instead of you doing a speed down?

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On 13 Feb 2017, at 23:22, John Moore bigfish@pacbell.net [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


I will be working on a show that is having some material shot in the UK.  The UK folks will also be using the material locally so they want to shoot 25Fps.

I would prefer they shoot 23.976 so I can integrate it painlessly into my 59.94I broadcast show in the US.

Am I wrong to tell them they should shoot in 23.976 and convert to 25 for their needs?  I would think the slight speed up would be much less problematic than me having to take 25Fps back into a 23.976 or 59.94 project in Avid.  25Fps into 59.94 would seem to be asking for frame jumps/skips and 25Fps to 23.976 is going to have to drop a frame every second which would also be steppy.  Perhaps not as bad 29.97i back to 23.976P but still I would think it would be jumpy.

If they do shoot 25 depending on the material is it okay to let Avid add motion adapters after capturing in a 25Fps project?  Or should we plan on converting the material before bringing it into Avid?  I assume they will be shooting 25P which I think will be less problematic than interlace material.

Any suggestions welcome but I really think the UK folks should shoot 23.976.  Would that frame rate cause them undo issues with light flicker?  TIA
 
John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net





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