Remember the good ol' first-Aviddaze? It was VHS or worse quality, but it was an off-line 'rough draft' edit before "going in" to a linear on-line suite with that EDL.
I preach a lot today about thinking about that kind of workflow with AMA in making 'sloppy' (or even neatly trimmed) "selects" of raw footage. Then, just transcoding/consolidating THOSE selected timelines. For heavy 2K and above, if I have a MacMini SideStation right next to the Workstation (something I now design in every suite, and it has its own monitor for tasks), I will even transcode/consolidate a proxy/lower rez version for Editors/AEs to cut with.
The AMA scratch timelines are saved in a bin for later cross-reference if necessary. And scanning through to do this step so quickly (sloppily just to sift through and make notes), it is so easy to see all the junk/useless stuff that was lensed (recent project had 120:1 shoot ratio for a 22 minute program, so imagine the savings of 5 days of transcode time).
Multi-cam projects need a little more planning, but this can be worked-in.
With this, you avert the AMA 'drag' and sluggishness on slow networks/hard drives, save space, time, and transcode only what you really need to get you to 1st Assembly or 1st Cut.
:)
-keoni tyler
Keoni Tyler's Kitchen Table Editorial (KTe), Hollywood
On Wednesday, January 11, 2017 2:46 PM, "Bouke bouke@editb.nl [Avid-L2]" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
eeh Lou,
My comments about needing a beefy machine were off-list :-)
On 11 Jan 2017, at 23:42, Lou Wirth loutv@mindspring.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:For me, its impossible to edit this way. Bouke is right. I've tried it a few times and its so sluggish, at least on my Mac Pro with plenty of Ram and an 8bay raid, it still stalls out. Today the Raid died so Im working on firewire raids and its impossible to edit with long clips. Transcoding is the only option and all this discussion and my endless transcoding time makes me look more and more to Premiere.On Jan 11, 2017, at 1:38 PM, Dio van Maaren dio@synccp.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:I have been asking it before but I'll do it again: what is actually wrong with editing everything in AMA and skipping the transcoding (and eventually relinking)stage completely? In the last years I have been editing multiple series of 30+ minute docs with 20 hrs+ of source material each and never had any serious issues doing so. The material mostly came from Sony F5 and FS7 in AVC100 HD format, playing from a 4 disk Raid5 storage disk.
When done, I do a mixdown to whatever flavor of DNxHD is needed (for CC) or export directly from the AMA linked timeline to HD MPEG50 (for Broadcast). The AvidMediaFolders stay pretty empty these days, except for renders, titles, imported graphics and MP4 stuff. I don't feel like I'm walking a dangerous path doing so, since everything feels and acts rock solid. Am I just lucky?
Dio van MaarenAMA will slow down the machine eventually, at least that's my experience with longer edits. And I have had crashes where I lost work because I waited to transcode. Not fun.
I generally transcode a few times as I go along. I cut in clips I know I will absolutely use, then transcode.
On shorter edits it hasn't been so critical. AMA does get you cutting faster without the transcoding first. But sometimes you pay for it!
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