Wednesday, October 26, 2016

RE: [Avid-L2] SAS Full/legal Exports 8.5

 

 

But how does that work… I found that with prores whether I export at legal or full the actual file seems to be the same and if I AMA back in avid it comes back as video levels and not full!

 

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From: Mark Spano [mailto:cutandcover@gmail.com]
Sent: 26 October 2016 14:36
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com; David Dodson <davaldod@gmail.com>
Cc: Roger Shufflebottom <rogershuff@yahoo.co.uk>; Nigel Gourley <avid-l@outpostfacilities.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] SAS Full/legal Exports 8.5

 

I solved this problem by ONLY using full levels for every SAS export except in cases where someone explicitly wants 709 (like Extreme Reach, for example). Anything I ever export is a mixdown, then SAS at full levels. Life is good and easy.

 

FYI - the Extreme Reach story: they supposedly take ProRes, but if you export SAS from a ProRes mixdown, it gets kicked back for illegal levels. So I mixdown to DNxHD 175 and then bounce out SAS at 709 and everyone's happy.

 

 

 

On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 9:32 AM, David Dodson davaldod@gmail.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Use Media Encoder. Terrific. Sounds good. But what do you export out of the Avid to use in Media Encoder? In other words, let's say I'm cutting a movie that's been transcoded to DNxHD 175. So in order to maintain some consistency in the intended levels, do I do the "mixdown-to-ProRes" trick, export SAS, and then use the result in Media Encoder? Or do I simply export the DNxHD 175 SAS and use that in Media Encoder? Or do I just indulge in the ritual sacrifice of a chicken and invoke the name of Beelzebub himself and hope that my levels come across the way I want? Because it seems like the third option is the only way this crap seems to work, especially given the amount of confusion seen even here, on a list with some of the most powerful of power users.

 

Very frustrating.

 

 

 

 

On Oct 26, 2016, at 5:45 AM, Roger Shufflebottom rogershuff@yahoo.co.uk [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

 

If you can find the answer, I owe you a virtual beer. Try encoding in Adobe Media Encoder - both legal and full come out as full. 

 

With Best Wishes, Roger Shufflebottom +44 7973 543 660

 


From: "'Nigel Gourley' avid-l@outpostfacilities.co.uk [Avid-L2]" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, 26 October 2016, 12:52
Subject: [Avid-L2] SAS Full/legal Exports 8.5

 

 

Hi there

 

I know this has been covered a lot but still unexpected result..

 

If we do a Prores mixdown and then a SAS export – whether it's full range or keep legal the result looks the same in QT player and also if you AMA it there is no transform on it. It still comes back into avid legal even if exported full..

 

My understanding was the full or legal was just a flag in the QT movie… so the question is where can we see the setting of this flag and can we change it externally? It doesn't appear in movie properties in QT

 

N

 

 

 

 

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