This IS the Avid L2: Re: [Avid-L2] Dante [was: Interesting NAB Discoveries X-Keys]

Sunday, April 26, 2015

Re: [Avid-L2] Dante [was: Interesting NAB Discoveries X-Keys]

I don't think there are any wireless Dante products announced. Seems like Dante becomes cool when sending a bunch of audio channels around…if you just need to send a few channels during production, turn to Lectrosonics, Zaxcom, or someone…

You could always check Audinate's website…they're the developer/licensor of Dante. A decent way to get an overview of Dante and check out the pretty impressive list of companies that support Dante in at least some of their products.
https://www.audinate.com

Dante's pretty cool and, in my world at least, winning the audio networking battle for mindshare over MADI (AES10) and others.

Two friends were considering buying Allen & Heath Qu digital mixers. The Qu line is fairly low cost and high quality. I use them a couple times a month and end up on gigs with someone else running one with some regularity (say, a couple times a month). Don't own one…but might before too long. Check them out. They're pretty cool:
http://www.allen-heath.com/key-series/qu-series/

But unlike the higher-end A&H boards, there isn't an available option for a Dante card. The Qu boards use a proprietary dSNAKE system that sounds OK but that I haven't seen in action.

So one guy decided to buy a A&H -despite- it's lack of Dante support. He does lots of doc and narrative work but also records live music at various locations…mostly "classical" and "new" music…so he's OK running a couple dozen analog channels to his mixer through a snake; it's how he's used to working and the Qu mixers have pretty good preamps. But the lack of Dante was an issue…that he ultimately decided didn't matter to him.

The other guy decided not to get a Qu mixer despite it's pretty impressive features and design because it didn't have Dante. He does doc & narrative work and also live FOH stuff. Since he needs long cable runs and not all performance spaces have great installed cabling, Dante's pretty damn helpful and now important to him.

So there you go.

jim feeley
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> On Apr 26, 2015, at 12:46 PM, Dave Hogan mactvman@yahoo.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> I am old school...
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> Wouldn't want someone next door using an old cordless phone, or the thousands of fans at a show to jam my wifi signal on all the audio feeds from the stage to the sound board. Or worse yet, a malicious anarchist with a jammer.
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> Give me a wire every time. At least someone has to find and cut that wire.
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> On Saturday, April 25, 2015 8:31 PM, "'Mikeparsons.tv' mikeparsons.tv@gmail.com [Avid-L2]" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Given that the audio is now a single multiplexed stream I wonder how soon we can expect a wireless version - even if it takes a couple of wifi streams to get the speed... No wires appeals to me a lot more than 1 wire.
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> Mike
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> On 26 Apr 2015, at 8:41 am, bigfish@pacbell.net [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>> Good to know. I was intrigued by the thought of having a Cat 6 Cable take the place of a big mic snake. Obviously there would be a need on stage to convert everything into the Dante stream of data but I'd bet that equipment isn't as big and bulky as the mic snakes I've had occasion to deal with. That being said there is a dependability to the old analogue methods that makes troubleshooting easier in my mind. Also if one cable goes bad in a mic snake it's relatively easy to fix and not catastrophic to the live production whereas losing the Dante stream would mean losing the whole system of audio and that would not be good. Still very cool technology I was not familiar with.
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>> ---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <jonathansabrams@...> wrote :
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>> Found several audio transport options with Dante being the most interesting to me. Over Cat 5e you can control audio devices and send a lot of audio channels bi directionally.
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>> The device control may be proprietary. While there is a standard for network audio transport (AES67), there is no AES standard for controlling AES67 devices.
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