Took a trip to Rhode and Schwrz. Venice does not do insert edits and is more expensive. They said they are working on it but not yet. I also confirmed that the base Cine Deck with 2 channels can be configured with one channel input and one channel output. The output channel can be configured to read the file being written, just like the confidence head on a tape deck. The playback delay will vary depending on the codec. ProRes was said to take about 3 frames to chunk and then something like 3 frames of decode. Dnx would have a shorted playback delay so that seems workable to me.
The CTO of Cine Deck did say that the preview output is based on the decoded SDI input so if it doesn't show a glitch it's highly unlikely the resulting file would. Given my need for confidence the base unit still has the 2nd channel to work in a read after write type of mode so I don't have to play the whole show back after a digitial cut.
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you really need to go over the Rohde & Schwarz booth in the South hall and take a look at Venice. Its way better than the Cinedeck ;-)
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On 14/04/2015 00:41, "John Moore bigfish@... [Avid-L2]" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> I missed the Cine Deck Editor's Lounge so I wasn't aware that they can now do seamless file insert edits. This is the device I've been waiting for. It's just like
> a tape machine but records to a file with up to 16 channels of audio. Did I mention it can insert edit? Gone are the days of 3 hours of rebaking a file just to change a title. On top of this it can simultaneously record to multiple drives and insert on
> them, depending on the file codec. It can also generate an H.264 proxy file with tc burn in all in real time. You can't edit into the H264 file but you could have the deck do a stand alone export to H.264 approx half of real time. This really seems like
> a no brainer. The base 2 channel unit that would replace a tape deck is around 22K and then you pay for which wrappers you want. If you get the QT wrapper you get all the QT codecs including ProRes, DNX and others. It will do virtually any codec although
> the don't as of now have an Sony SR codec. This is huge to me. All this for about half the price of a digibeta deck back in the day. I don't see how this can't take off big.
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>The one thing I wasn't able to confirm was if when doing a digital cut monitoring the Cinedeck output if there is some form of Confidence head like playback to assure
> that there is no glitch in the file. I'll endeavor to find out more about that. This is like having a deck and getting a file too. Can anyone tell me why this isn't the greatest thing since I discovered OKI Dogs?
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>P.S. I was told this isn't some AS-11 type of reference pointers etc... The file is just a single file like we are use to.
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>John Moore
>Barking Trout Productions
>Studio City, CA
>bigfish@...
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