This IS the Avid L2: Re: [Avid-L2] FR: PhraseFind

Tuesday, March 18, 2014

Re: [Avid-L2] FR: PhraseFind

That would probably actually work. Good thinking. The search databases are per project... the question is whether the search is done on MEDIA from a project or the BINS from the project. If it's the actual MEDIA then your idea wouldn't work unless you also went through the step to consolidate the media into the new project. Otherwise, the audio (which PhraseFind works from) would still be associated with the original project.

I'm fascinated by the number of times that Phrase find "hears" the crappy MVI audio and NOT the good A Camera audio. It delivers the Canon 5D media but doesn't deliver the Canon C300 media where we had the actual good mics (a lav and a close boom) plugged in. My only guess is that the lav and boom are rich and thick and the MVI files are really all mid-range. I wonder if Nexidia's algorithms are tuned to mid range where the human voice is. Still the MVI "camera mic" was a good five feet from the speakers and the book was 6 inches away in a very live room. It makes no sense.

Steve

On Mar 18, 2014, at 2:35 PM, Dan McCabe <danlist@bestmail.us> wrote:

If you opened up a new project and just brought the DNxHD bins in and did the searches there, would that be a possible kludge of a solution? Rough out the paper cut and then bring that back?

On Tue, Mar 18, 2014, at 12:53 PM, Steve Hullfish wrote:

I'm doing a very "PhraseFind" intensive job, trying to find audio in 3 hours of interviews, that the client has given in a rough paper cut.

One of the things that I thought that it would allow me to do, but it's not, is to pre-filter the search results of the PhraseFind searches.

For example, I have AMA material that I have transcoded. I also have an A camera with the audio and best shot, but also a Canon 5D mark II with crappy audio.

Whenever I do the PhraseFind, I want it to ALWAYS ignore the AMA footage and MVI clips. I can do some of that by eye, (only selecting those clips in the search results), but I'd rather have them filtered ahead of time. For some reason, despite great audio on our A camera, PhraseFind is sometime ONLY finding the "correct" phrase (accurately, I must say) on the MVI clips with the crappy Canon camera mic.

I also know who the speakers are, so I'd like to filter each individual search by only looking through the clips that have the specific speaker's name in the COMMENTS column.

So basically: Only give me DNxHD media. Never give me a clipname with MVI and also allow me to only search for a specific interviewee.

But the first two are the biggies.

I DID try to use the filtering tools in the Search window. I put ONLY the DNxHD media and none of the MVI clips in a single bin and closed all the others, then filtered on Current Bin. With PhraseFind searches, that still automatically opens up the AMA bin and reveals clips inside of it.

Still PhraseFind is probably saving me DAYS on just this one edit.

Steve Hullfish