RE: [Avid-L2] Lower third graphic softness

glad you found it helpful!

Andi

To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
From: pale.edit@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 16:46:19 -0400
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Lower third graphic softness


























Also, in our case, the graphic look is created by the network itself. We

just populate them with text and numbers. They can't really reject us for

illegal levels in graphics they provide. They will, however complain, when

they don't look right. Everything else on their HD broadcast looks sharp.

It we delivered graphics that were noticeably softer, they would have a

problem with it.



J



On Sunday, June 23, 2013, John Pale wrote:



> Wow. This is tremendously helpful. It's exactly what we are seeing. We

> have been reduced to creating all graphics as QuickTime as a workaround,

> which wastes a lot of time and disk space when you are dealing with

> hundreds of graphics in a sports series.

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> The point made about illegal spikes in transients is a good one, but this

> should not require a hidden console command to turn off.

> No other NLE does this. We have never had a rejection for transients on

> this series when using Quicktimes, which don't have the filter applied. I

> realize that might not be true for all broadcasters, but this needs to be

> optional. Again...no other NLE adds this filter, and stuff is obviously

> getting on the air that wasn't edited on Avid.

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> Thank you...can't wait to test this.

>

> J

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> On Sunday, June 23, 2013, Andi Meek wrote:

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>> Here's a thread i started on the Avid forums regarding my experiences

>> with title softness. Some interesting answers from a few of the guys from

>> this list and others...

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>> http://community.avid.com/forums/p/92610/644724.aspx#644724

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>> Andi

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>> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com

>> From: rogershuff@yahoo.co.uk

>> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 19:52:50 +0100

>> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Lower third graphic softness

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>> Does this go away if you render? An imported still exists as one

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>> With Best Wishes,

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>> Roger Shufflebottom

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>> > From: palenyc <pale.edit@gmail.com>

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>> >Longtime issue for us over many versions of Avid.

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>> >Is seems that keyable graphics imported as stills (Tiff, TGA,

>> Photoshop..any format) appear softer in a 1080i project than if the same

>> exact graphic is created as a QuickTime movie (Avid DNX or Animation codec)

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>> >At first I thought it was incorrect settings for field order in the

>> import dialog for the still version, but changing the setting to all three

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>> >As a test, make a simple graphic with text in After Effects (1080i, not

>> 1080p)...export it both as a still and as an Avid QuickTime DNX file.

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>> >Import both into your Avid and cut between them keyed over a shot. Are

>> they identical or is the still slightly softer? Please check in a

>> broadcast monitor, not a computer screen,

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>> >BTW, if imported into Premiere and FCP, they ARE identical but not in

>> Avid. I used After Effects for testing, as it is easy to do...but we first

>> discovered the issue with graphics exported from a Chyron Lyric. We first

>> thought the problem was there, but after testing with other software, it

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