This IS the Avid L2: RE: [Avid-L2] Re: Semi OT: Screen sharing with clients

Tuesday, May 28, 2013

RE: [Avid-L2] Re: Semi OT: Screen sharing with clients

Not cheaper, but for super low latency and smooth playback Fujitsu is a
great solution. They were showing 99ms @ NAB. Contact me off list if you
want some more info.

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From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
blafarm
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 10:26 AM
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Semi OT: Screen sharing with clients

> Right now, I'm trying out an encoder/decoder pair from Teradek (the 105,>
305 "Cube" series.)

250ms latency is impressive -- especially without using leased lines.
And $3,000 is a very reasonable price considering the alternatives --
especially if you can effectively cut that price in half by just purchasing
the encoder.

Out of curiosity, what don't you like about it?

How dependent is smooth VLC performance on the host computing platform?

Lastly, is multicast capability built-in to the encoder (allowing for
multiple VLC or decoder clients)?

Thanks

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com> , Ryan
Johnson <phinalcut@... <mailto:phinalcut@...> > wrote:
>
> I've been trying out lots of solutions for this application... It seems
the
> real problem is latency. Video streams can look great when buffering is an
> option, but if real-time- or close to real-time- delivery is important, it
> becomes a real challenge.
>
> In our case, the editors and clients require as close to real-time
> performance as possible, so any latency above 1/2 second is considered
> unusable. Typically, the remote clients will speak to the editor by
> telephone while watching video/audio streamed separately from the output
of
> Avid or FCP.
>
> iChat (now "Messages") can be made to work using any DV device and an old
> computer. This solution works fairly well... Latency is generally below
1/4
> second, and it's certainly cheap to implement. However, video resolution
is
> limited to 640 x 480 (at best) and the stream bandwidth is capped at 2
> Mb/s. Also, the codec in use is best suited for static 'talking-head'
style
> imagery, so if you're footage is handheld with lots of random motion, the
> image falls apart pretty quickly.
>
> Right now, I'm trying out an encoder/decoder pair from Teradek (the 105,
> 305 "Cube" series.) These boxes will stream 1080p23.98 at up to 10Mb/s.
You
> can stream from one box to another, or stream directly to VLC player using
> RTSP.
>
> So far, the performance on these is pretty impressive. For whatever
reason,
> 720p59.94 yields lower latency than 1080p, so I am cross-converting the
> output of the Avid to suit. The stream bandwidth is capped at 4 Mb/s, and
> still looks good. There are a handful of encoder settings that can be
> tweaked depending upon your application to get even lower latency, but I
am
> getting about 1/4 second from our local ISP to another remote network.
>
> Of course, the encoder/decoder pair runs about $3K, so it's not the
> cheapest solution out there.
>
> I'm pretty sure if somebody had the time, a equivalent solution (or
> better?) could be built using a reasonably fast Linux box running ffmpeg
> and x264. Anybody?
>
>
> -Ryan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 1:43 AM, Christopher Pitbladdo <
> avid@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > No problem with the audio, as I recall (I only used it a handful of
times,
> > due to the overall lag).
> >
> > ***
> > Christopher Pitbladdo
> > Digital Buddy
> > 496 Ferry Road
> > Edinburgh
> > EH5 2DL
> > Tel: 0131 552 553 0
> > Mob: 07590 570 683
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> >
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> >
> > On 28 May 2013, at 00:04, "Tony Breuer" <tonybreuer@...
<mailto:tonybreuer@...> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks, Christopher. I forgot about sling box. The audio stayed in
sync
> > though, right?
> > >
> > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com> ,
Christopher Pitbladdo <avid@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I hooked a SlingBox up to my Avid output for the same reason... In
> > reality, the lag was a bit of an issue, typically they were around five
> > seconds behind me.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ***
> > > > Christopher Pitbladdo
> > > > Digital Buddy
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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