Now, i ve got my anger management training from a guy named Bob:
AE is one of the worst scalers, depending on taste.
De-interlace is a gotspe for DVD creation.
Why on earth use ProRes as an inbetween format unless you like torture.
The one (let's call him "L" (insert sinister voice here)) who said that full
height anamorph was no way to go should be hanged. (shot first if he's
lucky.)
Compressor sucks. Cinemacraft is good and affordable (If it's still around).
An SDI hardware encoder (Assuming it's the Sonic 2000, best money could buy
back then) is better? Cinemacraft outperformes it.
(Let alone you don't want to do 7 pass encoding in batch on some 20 shows
without having an intern and digibeta you can spare. Nowadays, who cares. In
those days, welll...)
The ones who said that you should use a datarate of 9000 or 8000 has never
made a burned DVD without at least some complaints. It just does not work in
an average player.
(There is a huge difference in duplication and replication.)
CBR is not only good to keep max quality, it's also easier on the players
for 'some' reason. Experience of hunderes of pros on thousands of different
players can't be wrong.
Now, the usual suspects have the right anwers.
Only few things for me to add, do NOT ever use dual layer if you burn, and
for the rest, use good brand discs. Never ever put a sticker on a DVD.
Never use DV as an inbetween if you're in NTSC (4:1:1 vs 4:2:0, it will suck
big time)
Last, the DVD list is DEAD.
DVD's are good as giveaway of productions, as the box can hold lots of
artwork and has some value on a bookshelf, and of course it's easy to put
some bribing money next to the DVD (That's why Ammaray puts the clips inside
the boxes.)
For normal screeners, YouTube is great.
(Yes Frank, Xprove never had a chance...)
Back to meds and Star Trek DS9 (from Bittorrent, DVD rips Uncompressed of
course, nice 4:3, just as i like it on my old CRT)
Bouke
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Lou Wirth" <loutv@mindspring.com>
To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: best dvd quality possible
>I have had luck in the past rescaling with AE when graphics were getting a
>little blocky. AE seems to be best scaler around. But what I settled on
>was Pro Res export from Avid, Adobe Media Encoder to encode MPEG and Adobe
>Encore for the DVD. I found AME cleaner than compressor and Sorenson. I
>agree with previous post thought that DVD as a deliverable sucks in general
>and, unless BluRay, it just never looks great.
>
> thanks all for the help
>
> Lou
> On Mar 11, 2013, at 2:17 PM, "dave_harrison_edit"
> <davealbumania@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Lou, very sorry for the long delay in reply. Yes, I have deinterlaced &
>> resized to 720x480 in the same AE comp then rendered out. Then I've taken
>> that rendered file & made the DVD MPEGs in Compressor using one of the
>> presets. Let us know when you find something that works for you.
>>
>> --Dave
>>
>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Lou Wirth <loutv@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > So you deinterlace in AE?, resize, then export?
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mar 5, 2013, at 7:44 PM, "dave_harrison_edit" <davealbumania@...>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > FWIW, Lou, the best DVDs I've gotten have been washed through After
>> > > Effects. In my case, I typically work with 1080i in Symphony 6,
>> > > export ProRes 1080i, deinterlace (I've been using BCC Deinterlace,
>> > > which can be painful in rendering duration) and resize to 720x480,
>> > > encode with DVD presets in Compressor, then straight to DVD Studio
>> > > Pro. It's a ridiculous method, it seems, but it's worked well. I'd
>> > > love to know others' recipes, too.
>> > >
>> > > Also FWIW, one of the assistants said she took the Avid-exported
>> > > ProRes movie into FCP7, used File>Export>Quicktime Conversion and
>> > > exported a deinterlaced movie there, pulled that into a Compressor
>> > > DVD preset and came up fine. I never saw the end result, though, so I
>> > > can't say one way or the other.
>> > >
>> > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Lou Wirth wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > It seems to be an ongoing search to find the best combination of
>> > > > software to get the best quality dvd from my avid timeline. I have
>> > > > Sorenson, compressor, Adobe Media Encoder, I use DVD studio pro and
>> > > > Adobe Encore. But I am never quite happy with either titles or
>> > > > motion or something. I am always working with 1080 and going to SD
>> > > > DVD. Clients never want Blu Ray. Today for instance, the lower
>> > > > thirds look crisp, yet my opening title created in AE (16bit
>> > > > project) white titles moving over black, look pixelated and just
>> > > > not crisp. I export my timeline as prores 422, then take to
>> > > > compressor and also encoded in Squeeze but the squeeze version did
>> > > > not have smooth motion on the action. So Compressor was the one to
>> > > > go with, but then the title looks a little pixelated. Has anyone
>> > > > found the right combo of codecs, encoders and burners to make
>> > > > really good quality DVDs? Or even a really good preset for
>> > > > Compressor or Squeeze that would help keep quality up. I admit that
>> > > > compression is not my thing so I am looking for a good recipe.
>> > > >
>> > > > thanks
>> > > >
>> > > > Lou
>> > > > Lou Wirth Productions
>> > > > 500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522
>> > > > Corte Madera, CA 94925
>> > > > www.louwirth.com
>> > > > 415-924-9411p
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> > Lou Wirth Productions
>> > 500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522
>> > Corte Madera, CA 94925
>> > www.louwirth.com
>> > 415-924-9411p
>> >
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