Patrick:
Great and useful response.
I do a lot of B&W grading (archival film scans) so the three balls are of less importance to me. I use curves a lot, and a Logitech Marblemouse Pro ($20 trackball) works quite nicely for that.
Do any of the panels help much with curves.
In this case they are leaning towards the Element, which makes sense. The setup probably won't travel much, and the budget supports it.
It seems like Blackmagic needs to open up the toolbox so users can configure their own panels.
Again, that's -- good to have help from someone who has actually used all the panels.
So, what about grading monitors??? ;-)
Best,
Jeff
Jeff Kreines
Kinetta
kinetta.com
jeff@kinetta.com
On Mar 21, 2013, at 5:17 PM, Patrick Inhofer <elists@fini.tv> wrote:
> How many hours a week do you plan on using the panel with Resolve? Is this
> more for on-set Primary Grading or full-blown secondaries and HSL
> qualifications?
>
> If the former...
>
> They'll both work but the Wave is much more portable. It looks flimsy but
> in my experience it should hold up to abuse as well as the Color - and
> since the trackballs are integrated into the panel (the Color's trackballs
> will fall out if you pick it up and tilt it) the Wave is a better option if
> you're always on the move (not to mention it's USB-based compared to the
> Color's ethernet connection).
>
> If the latter, here's my long answer...
>
> The Wave is a LOT of button pushing.
>
> The way the DaVinci folks programmed the Avid Color, it's got too many
> secondary button states. If you've got fat fingers like me, it's often
> tough to tell what 'state' you're in and end up pushing the wrong buttons
> or always looking at the panel to figure out what you've got enabled (or
> thought you had enabled but didn't). Color's damn shift keys drive me crazy
> on Resolve in a way they never did on Apple Color.
>
> The Avid Color was my favorite panel for Apple Color. It was always fastest
> for me.
>
> In Resolve, the JL Cooper is my favorite. Yesterday I started working with
> the Element and it has a LOT going for it. Muscle memory is getting real
> easy to build up. Much much easier to learn than the JL Cooper or Avid
> Color.
>
> Again - the Element has programming problems with how the DaVinci guys set
> up that panel and I do more button pushing than is potentially necessary
> with that full set of panels. But it's WAY less button pushing than with
> the Wave. And the buttons / knobs are so big I'm getting very fast with key
> combinations. I'm impressed with it.
>
> If you're on the panel 2-3 days a week or more... go with the Element.
>
> Otherwise... if I HAD to choose between the Avid Color and Wave, I'd chose
> the Wave - but not be happy about it... not doing the kind of work I do.
> It's the reliability of my button pushes on the Wave that wins it over for
> me.
>
> HTH
>
> Patrick Inhofer
> Fini.tv
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>
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Jeff Kreines <jeffkreines@mindspring.com>wrote:
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>> Does anyone have experience with the Avid Panels and Resolve? The Tangent
>> Wave? I would lean towards the Wave except the size and build quality of
>> the Avid looks pretty good.
>>
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