Re: [Avid-L2] Avid Color panel vs. Tangent for Resolve

I don't have nearly the experience with panels that Patrick does, but I've
used the Wave and the Artist Color with Resolve... I prefer the Artist
Color.

The main thing I disliked about the Wave was the panel feel and the use of
"jog" dials for the Lift/Gamma/Gain controls. They were very easy to bump I
found.

I haven't had a chance to use the Element panels, but they look like a huge
improvement over the Wave.

I also tend to have a laminated copy of the Artist Color button reference
sheet with me when using Resolve - I've not really developed muscle memory
for it, but then I'm not using it often.

I can also use the Artist Color with Symphony, but I find the experience
fustrating and don't usually bother - the control is laggy and lacks the
finese that the same surface has in Resolve. Although it does make fine
adjustments of curve points remarkably easy.

Dylan Reeve
http://dylanreeve.com/


On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Jeff Kreines - Kinetta
<jeff@kinetta.com>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Patrick:
>
> Great and useful response.
>
> I do a lot of B&W grading (archival film scans) so the three balls are of
> less importance to me. I use curves a lot, and a Logitech Marblemouse Pro
> ($20 trackball) works quite nicely for that.
>
> Do any of the panels help much with curves.
>
> In this case they are leaning towards the Element, which makes sense. The
> setup probably won't travel much, and the budget supports it.
>
> It seems like Blackmagic needs to open up the toolbox so users can
> configure their own panels.
>
> Again, that's -- good to have help from someone who has actually used all
> the panels.
>
> So, what about grading monitors??? ;-)
>
> Best,
>
>
> Jeff
>
> Jeff Kreines
> Kinetta
> kinetta.com
> jeff@kinetta.com
>
> On Mar 21, 2013, at 5:17 PM, Patrick Inhofer <elists@fini.tv> wrote:
>
> > How many hours a week do you plan on using the panel with Resolve? Is
> this
> > more for on-set Primary Grading or full-blown secondaries and HSL
> > qualifications?
> >
> > If the former...
> >
> > They'll both work but the Wave is much more portable. It looks flimsy but
> > in my experience it should hold up to abuse as well as the Color - and
> > since the trackballs are integrated into the panel (the Color's
> trackballs
> > will fall out if you pick it up and tilt it) the Wave is a better option
> if
> > you're always on the move (not to mention it's USB-based compared to the
> > Color's ethernet connection).
> >
> > If the latter, here's my long answer...
> >
> > The Wave is a LOT of button pushing.
> >
> > The way the DaVinci folks programmed the Avid Color, it's got too many
> > secondary button states. If you've got fat fingers like me, it's often
> > tough to tell what 'state' you're in and end up pushing the wrong buttons
> > or always looking at the panel to figure out what you've got enabled (or
> > thought you had enabled but didn't). Color's damn shift keys drive me
> crazy
> > on Resolve in a way they never did on Apple Color.
> >
> > The Avid Color was my favorite panel for Apple Color. It was always
> fastest
> > for me.
> >
> > In Resolve, the JL Cooper is my favorite. Yesterday I started working
> with
> > the Element and it has a LOT going for it. Muscle memory is getting real
> > easy to build up. Much much easier to learn than the JL Cooper or Avid
> > Color.
> >
> > Again - the Element has programming problems with how the DaVinci guys
> set
> > up that panel and I do more button pushing than is potentially necessary
> > with that full set of panels. But it's WAY less button pushing than with
> > the Wave. And the buttons / knobs are so big I'm getting very fast with
> key
> > combinations. I'm impressed with it.
> >
> > If you're on the panel 2-3 days a week or more... go with the Element.
> >
> > Otherwise... if I HAD to choose between the Avid Color and Wave, I'd
> chose
> > the Wave - but not be happy about it... not doing the kind of work I do.
> > It's the reliability of my button pushes on the Wave that wins it over
> for
> > me.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Patrick Inhofer
> > Fini.tv
> > TaoOfColor.com
> > MixingLight.com
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Jeff Kreines <
> jeffkreines@mindspring.com>wrote:
> >
> >> **
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >> Does anyone have experience with the Avid Panels and Resolve? The
> Tangent
> >> Wave? I would lean towards the Wave except the size and build quality of
> >> the Avid looks pretty good.
> >>
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
>
> >
> > Search the official Complete Avid-L archives at:
> http://archives.bengrosser.com/avid/
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>


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