Saturday, January 19, 2013

Re: [Avid-L2] what are yall using to archive

 

Huh? 90Tb in a single backup? One backup is no backup, if lighning strikes,
you've lost everything...
Now, the DIY build i like, but i very much doubt the efficiency powerwise...
My guestimation is that it requires at least 2 Kw.
That is one year more cost on electricity than an LTO system will set you
back.
(granted, a smaller system for editing only will also use power. I'm at the
point of powering down at night / weekends)

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From: "David C. Ballard" dave@lab601.com>
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 4:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] what are yall using to archive

> we use our own purpose built spinning disk storage pods. filled with 45
> 2tb drives for 90tb each now until larger ones get as cheap. you can call
> us to ask what they cost, but they are 10s of thousands less than same
> sized commercially available storages. they are online NAS storages with
> bonded interfaces for gigE speeds to multiple systems at full bandwidth.
> they use off the shelf components so if there is a failure (which we have
> not had yet) they can be fixed easily and affordably.
>
> we edit off of them with reasonable resolutions (no uncompressed) with
> multiple clients. they are great for central repositorys, work great with
> VFX systems and graphic artists.
>
> they run ZFS zraid2 so they are looking for problems and fixing any
> without the Data Rot that comes with raid5 or 6. i've replaced only 2
> drives in the units and not suffered downtime for rebuilding that comes
> with traditional raid. good thing as using commodity drives they all have
> been RMA'd by seagate under their warranty.
>
> with proper file system like zfs and spinning disk you have electricity
> cost (if constantly running) but could have less failure rate of bad tapes
> or tapes not loading....not looking for a flame war, but if an archive is
> accessible directly and monitored on the bit level, this is better than
> shelving something and hoping it opened.
>
> we've got our 13 years of our data on these pods. handy.
>
> David C. Ballard
> President & Creative Director | LAB 601, Inc.
> LAB 601 Digital Post
> 404.876.4601
> www.lab601.comhttp://www.lab601.com/>
>
> From: mike cardeiro mcardeiro@yahoo.commcardeiro@yahoo.com>>
> Reply-To: "Avid-L2@yahoogroups.comAvid-L2@yahoogroups.com>"
> Avid-L2@yahoogroups.comAvid-L2@yahoogroups.com>>
> Date: Friday, January 18, 2013 10:20 AM
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> Subject: [Avid-L2] what are yall using to archive
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>
> Hi
>
> Over the past few years we have changed from mostly tape to mostly digital
> shooting. As a consequence the way we used to archive old projects
> doesn't work.
>
> Sometimes I will end up with 1 or 2 usb drives with all the footage from a
> shoot...theres a big pile of them building up in one of the Avid suites.
> Frankly, I don't put a lot of faith in the longevity of these little
> drives.
>
> I'm thinking of getting a large raid server that can just hold all the
> stuff (till it gets full then we'll have another talk about longer term
> archival)
>
> What are you using to archive old footage that was aquired digitally?
>
> Mike Cardeiro
> Editor/Animator/Compositor
> D4 Creative Group - Philadelphia, PA
>
> http://www.michaelcardeiro.com/resume/
> http://www.youtube.com/user/mcardeiro
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