Saturday, July 7, 2012

[Avid-L2] Re: 2000 cuts fuckup, GoPro NoGo

 

Shirley haven't you heard F@#$Up is the new term for "file based?" After extensive google search engines determined that "file based" is usually preceded or followed by F@#$Up on the internet it was decided that it could in fact be abbreviated to just F@#$Up thereby saving several unnecessary ascii characters and lowering the overall bandwidth of the entire internet. I'm surprised you didn't already get the F@#$Up memo. ;-)

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Shirley Gutierrez <guanacaa@...> wrote:
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> Fascinating, Bouke! Though I got a little lost too...
>
>
> Can we really say "fuckup" on the Avid L? Gee, I'd have been cursing a lot more if I'd known it was okay all this time!
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> Best,
> Shirley
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: bouke <bouke@...>
> To: Avid-L2 <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sat, Jul 7, 2012 2:50 pm
> Subject: [Avid-L2] 2000 cuts fuckup, GoPro NoGo
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> Well, i recently asked how to apply effects to a 2000 cuts sequence.
> This was (well, still is) a jolly good fun job.
> Once i made my 2000 cuts (after a huge amount of cursing on creating sublips
> on AMA files to render out to DV for multicam),
> i came to the point to show my client a bit of what i was up to.
> So, i tried a small part to relink to the sequence to the original GoPro
> clips.
> Decomposed, found the clips used, and AMA'd them back in (my drives tend to
> get different drive letters, as i'm on shared storage)
>
> NoGo.
>
> Cursing, but wait, i've written a HowTo on the subject.
> So, educating myself on stuff i should know, i found out i had to relink to
> original lenght (before decompose) clips.
> (beside a zillion other gotchas)
> So, back to the original sequence, relinking with all my wits up to date.
>
> NoGo.
>
> Ok, fair enough, i did subclip AMA files prior to the transcode, so i
> thought, let's decompose them and relink those clips, as they should reflect
> the original AMA clips.
>
> NoGo.
>
> The decomposed master clips are one frame longer than the AMA files.
> Probably that's why it fails.
> Well, let's not put our heads down, let's make common timecode and assign a
> Reel to the files, and relink good old fashioned way.
>
> NoGo.
>
> Oh, right clicking AMA GoPro files to do something takes FOREVER, and if you
> release the mouse too soon thinking nothing will happen anyways, you're in
> for a bag of unknown hurt.
> This all helps making this a very nice learning experience...
>
> Ok, i'm really getting into the Cartman "im getting seriouslly pissed now"
> mode.
> I ran a test before i started this. (well, at least i thought i did, but
> there is no documentation to proof it.)
> In the cursing procedure, I have managed to get one clip relinked,
> sometimes, partly, and never into the desired sequence..
>
> So, let's re-ingest all the material at DNxHD, then try to assign a
> reelname, and relink again.
> This only takes about 700 gig of drive space, and no more than a long night
> of rendering.
> But wait, for that i need to subclip first, or it will take my weekend and
> three times the space...
> (I could not turn off the cams for portions not used....)
> Now, not that bad, that will take me only about 3 hours for 45 clips. (yeah,
> that dog slow is AMA on GoPro...)
>
> Thinking of that, we still have TimeCode to set the accurate points, based
> on the prior AMA transcode to DV.
> Oh, not sure why, but the TC is sometimes zero based, but sometimes the time
> of import. What did i do?
> (well, i've used 5.03 on one machine, 5.5 on another, perhaps that's why?)
>
> But, Bouke, YOU are the creator of GoProToQT (where you can assign TOD tc to
> GoPro Mp4, that nicely imports into Avid.)
> WHY DID YOU NOT USE THIS PRIOR TO YOUR FIRST INGEST????
>
> Shoot me now, i have no idea... (well, i do, but i'm not going to share it
> here...)
>
> Of course i had a lot of cursing syncing the material, since the producer
> did not bring a flash, my TC transmitters are still not ready, and
> PluralEyes sucks donkeyballs on this kind of material.
> (actually, it is unable to sync any clip...)
>
> Will i be able to relink my 2000 cuts to the new material?
> No idea yet, still rendering the AMA import to DNxHD.
>
> What happens if it fails?
> Well, i just make 2000 cuts again. Or perhaps just 1000, as i still don't
> know how it should be cut.
> Multicam on this is fairly easy, it will take me less than a day to redo.
> Meanwhile i'm learning how to read a directors score, and that can only be
> helpfull for a next time.
>
> Will i do this again?
> You bet, alhough better prepared, and next time i'll bring at least 30
> GoPro's, and i'll have the tools to cut them based on the score.
> (even hope to automate it based on someone keeping the timing. If a writer
> can make music while being deaf, i should be able to direct blind...)
>
> There should be a lesson to be taught in here, but i've lost track.
> If you find it, keep it.
>
> Bouke
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