Re: [Avid-L2] EBU R128 as plugin?

Ah yes,
Completely forgot that the point of this discussion was for R128
monitoring...

On 11 May 2012 16:48, bouke <bouke@editb.nl> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Hmm.
> few points then:
> For the final mix, it is NOT about peaks. They do very little to the
> overall
> value.
> So if you want a loud gunshot, it's fine.
> The overall perceptive loudness needs to be conform specs, so you can use
> a
> very dynamic mix if you like.
> Hence i like to mix as normal, then adust the entire mix.
> funny enough, if i mix like i normally do, (do not compress, spoken text
> up
> to -9 on peak meters, music to liking but not exceed -9), it is almost
> always just good..
>
> But to get it fast and easy done, i still prefer the R128gain, as it is
> worry free :-)
>
>
> Bouke
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Ross" <speckydave@gmail.com>
> To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 5:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] EBU R128 as plugin?
>
> > Sorry, yes. I use only the standalone. Like I said, I'm don't know
> > anything about the plug-in.
> >
> > I use it for onlining TV ads - my audio is generally a single stereo
> > wav or aiff. So obviously it's pretty simple for me to tweak the
> > overall level of the mixes. The PPMulator batch may not be so useful
> > for long form mixes where you need to know *where* the peaks are,
> > though it will give you a rough idea if you watch the meters as it
> > scans, since it does show levels it goes, along with the percentage
> > completed
> > Really, I think the batch is just for a final safety/sanity-check
> > before delivery.
> >
> > As to how much to change the whole mix by, I use it with FCP and I use
> > the mixer (same as I'd do it if I was on an Avid), but how much to
> > change by depends on what kind of metering I have to do (PPM,
> > True-Peak, R128) for the delivery. Sometimes it's just trial and error
> > till I get it to where I want it. Which is no big deal for a 30" ad.
> > Not so much fun with long-form, obviously.
> >
> > D.
> >
> >
> > On 11 May 2012 15:41, bouke <bouke@editb.nl> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ah yes, the stand alone app!
> >> But, when you got your results, what do you do to get it right?
> >> My preferred way is to adjust the entire mix, but by what?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Bouke
> >>
> >> VideoToolShed
> >> van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
> >> 6512 AS NIJMEGEN
> >> The Netherlands
> >> +31 24 3553311
> >> www.videotoolshed.com
> >> For large files:
> >> http://dropbox.yousendit.com/BoukeVahl998172
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "David Ross" <speckydave@gmail.com>
> >> To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> >> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 3:54 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] EBU R128 as plugin?
> >>
> >> > Open the preferences, go to "Peak log," click on "choose input
> >> > file(s),"
> >> > select all the aiff/wav files you need and off you go.
> >> > It will then analyse the audio based on the meter type, levels and
> >> > frame-rate that you have already set. (So if you're measuring for EBU
> >> > R128,
> >> > you need to make sure there's no extra silence at the beginning or
> >> > end.)
> >> >
> >> > Way faster than real time.
> >> >
> >> > D.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 11 May 2012 14:05, bouke <bouke@editb.nl> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> **
> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> David,
> >> >> That's the one i ment...
> >> >> AFAIK, it can only be used on one track.
> >> >> How does the batch mode work? Can it scan the entire track faster
> than
> >> >> RT?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Bouke
> >> >>
> >> >> VideoToolShed
> >> >> van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
> >> >> 6512 AS NIJMEGEN
> >> >> The Netherlands
> >> >> +31 24 3553311
> >> >> www.videotoolshed.com
> >> >> For large files:
> >> >> http://dropbox.yousendit.com/BoukeVahl998172
> >> >>
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> From: "David Ross" <speckydave@gmail.com>
> >> >> To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> >> >> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 1:40 PM
> >> >> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] EBU R128 as plugin?
> >> >>
> >> >> > PPMulator XL works on Mac & Windows, and can be used both in
> >> >> > real-time
> >> >> and
> >> >> > batch mode. I believe it can be used as a plug-in for ProTools,
> but
> >> >> > I'm
> >> >> > not
> >> >> > sure about Avid.
> >> >> > Not free, unfortunately.
> >> >> > http://products.zplane.de/index.php?page=ppmulatorxl
> >> >> >
> >> >> > D.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On 11 May 2012 12:13, bouke <bouke@editb.nl> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> **
> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> There is a plugin, i have it, but it is buggy as hell (on MC
> 5.0x,
> >> >> >> XP)
> >> >> >> And, it's only good for commercials as it works in RT.
> >> >> >> This means, you need to reset, play the show, then you have
> >> >> >> results.
> >> >> >> IOW, totally unusable, as if it is not good, you need to make
> >> >> adjustments
> >> >> >> and do the entire thing again.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I would suggest using R128gain. (afaik, windows only)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> It is a stand alone program. Mix like you want, export a wave,
> >> >> >> process
> >> >> it
> >> >> >> and import back and be done with it.
> >> >> >> Oh, and it's free....
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Bouke
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> VideoToolShed
> >> >> >> van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
> >> >> >> 6512 AS NIJMEGEN
> >> >> >> The Netherlands
> >> >> >> +31 24 3553311
> >> >> >> www.videotoolshed.com
> >> >> >> For large files:
> >> >> >> http://dropbox.yousendit.com/BoukeVahl998172
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> >> From: "Nigel Gourley" <avid-l@outpostfacilities.co.uk>
> >> >> >> To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> >> >> >> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 11:45 AM
> >> >> >> Subject: [Avid-L2] EBU R128 as plugin?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Hi there,
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > What are people using to monitor this within Avid? Does the
> >> >> >> > software
> >> >> >> > solutions work in realtime and on the timeline permanently?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Thanks
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > N
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
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