Steve,
Agreed. I was responding to James.
Maybe I misread him as well.
My problem is more with the misuse of images and effects. It irks me when I watch something that has no forethought or premise. Just a hodgepodge of visuals and sound bites with no real understanding of the language of film.
Yes creativity, free expression, pushing the norm. These are all important.
And there are no rules.... And it depends on the context.
Though I too believe page turn=new job and that pushes are funny.
Anna
On Oct 24, 2011, at 6:06 PM, Steve Hullfish <steve4lists@veralith.com> wrote:
> No one said that film couldn't convey ideas and emotions. You've completely missed the point.
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> Would you agree that the words "THEIR" "THERE" and "THEY"RE" all sound the same?
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> Yet, they convey different meanings ENTIRELY from each other, and if you're LISTENING to someone talk, the ONLY way you understand what the sound MEANS is in its context.
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> My previous sentence contains three OTHER words that are homophones. Unless you understand the CONTEXT, you have NO idea what the words "TO" and "YOU'RE" or even "ITS" means (Depends on the meaning of "its" anyone?)
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> Words, colors, sounds, music, all of these things are only valuable when viewed in context.
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> Throwing around effects without forethought is the exact point of the thread: Which is that a cut, dissolve, wipe, push, dip to black.... they are all just meaningless things without context.
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> Surely they can have a GENERAL cultural meaning, but even without the context of the larger culture they are meaningless.
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> So you are saying that if, for example a dissolve indicates a passage of time, then it would be careless and sloppy to use a cut, no matter what? I bet if you look into the history of film, you could find a thousand, brilliant transitions that described a passage of time that did NOT use a dissolve.
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> Context is everything. Not to believe it is sloppy and careless. Just ask the koala who eats shoots and leaves.
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> Steve Hullfish
> contributor: www.provideocoalition.com
> author: "The Art and Technique of Digital Color Correction"
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> On Oct 24, 2011, at 4:42 PM, Anna Hovhannessian wrote:
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> > I don't agree. Film is a language that when used properly can convey ideas and emotions.
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> > Throwing effects around without forethought is careless and sloppy.
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> > On Oct 24, 2011, at 5:06 PM, Steve Hullfish <steve4lists@veralith.com> wrote:
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> > > Truly, I'm with James.
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> > > It's just as easy to convey a passage of time with a cut as with a dissolve, if done properly and there is context.
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> > > It's an interesting concept - to try to assign meaning to these types of transitions - but even with color, this is a hard thing to do, especially culturally.
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