Bouke,
Who got you all cranky today? So I am not allowed to complain about the issues with file based workflows now? I'm not telling you that you have to use tape. I really don't care what you use. But the reality is that the file based workflows are the wild west right now, and that is causing a lot of folks pain. And I see more than my share of that pain.
Obviously you think file based is great. I think is is less efficient than the tape based workflows we have in place for many users and yes, especially in my universe. Let's just leave it at.
--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "bouke" <bouke@...> wrote:
>
> Lacks of standards?
> Over here, SONY defines standards, together with a few techs that are
> retired now.
> What is a 'standard' other than one simple rule you need to know to deliver
> your shit?
> In the rest of the world, there are zillion of 'standards'. If i want to buy
> a simple rod of steel (i need one right now), i get the option of 38 kind of
> different ones.
> Now you can define that as bad, you can also define that as good. I prefer
> the latter, since i like to have the options.
>
> The fact that public broadcaster techs are plain stupid (and believe me,
> i've got a lot more stories like yours) does not count as an argument for
> 'tape being better than file'. The same shit happened in tape delivery also.
> The one and sole reason i've bought a DVW500 is to be able to tell other
> parties to shut up, since my stuff is on Digibeta it MUST BE GOOD. And it
> worked.
>
> But that has nothing to do with Terry's bitching.
> I for one can't see why one must invest in high priced hardware to deliver
> up to specs. I also fail to see why digital delivery has anything to do with
> 'lack of specs'.
> Those are different things.
> And Terry's arguments in the past are something i can write something about,
> but not tonite.
>
> Bouke
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Job ter Burg (L2B)" <Job_L2@...>
> To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 11:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Hard Drive Shortages to Drive Up Cost of Video
> Editing
>
>
>
> Bouke,
>
> What exactly makes digital file-based delivery so much better?
> Seriously, I'm interested in your opinion.
>
> To me, in its current state, it represents lack of standards combined with
> confusion, if not chaos.
>
> To illustrate: for a TV-job a few months ago, I received the ident of a
> public broadcaster, in an Apple IMX codec and in H264, both obviously
> straight from FCP. They couldn't tell me the color space it was in (or
> should be in).
>
> The H264, which they claimed most folks used, was completely off,
> gamma-wise. They said I was the first to mention it. I have watched that
> ident on TV from time to time. Nice, crushed blacks, and H264 artifacting
> all over the place in 80% of the cases.
>
> Now I know some people will always screw things up, but I do recall that a
> DigiBeta tape with bars and tone (and an inlay) would often at least
> indicate what you would be dealing with. Compared to files in "some" color
> space (take a guess) and "some" codec (never mind platform compatibility),
> no bars, no tone, no information, no metadata.
>
> Again, this is just my narrow view and recent experience. On the Digital
> Cinema side, things seem a bit brighter.
>
> Job.
>
> On 27 okt. 2011, at 23:18, bouke wrote:
>
> > Terry, you've been bitching about this too much lateley.
> >
> > The fact that it is not for your business does not make you have a valid
> > point.
> > The world is bigger than your shop. Learn to live with it.
> >
>
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