What I completely choked on was when he said he couldn't possibly understand everything he was talking about so he had to relay (secretly paid) info from interested parties. Holy crap, if he doesn't understand it, why the hell is he pontificating about it! Pogue gotta fill media space. I guess.
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On Aug 1, 2011, at 9:14 PM, "Dan McCabe" <danlist@bestmail.us> wrote:
> I dunno Wilson. We aren't talking Consumer Reports here. He isn't
> a testing lab. Pogue's one guy churning out a weekly column that
> is supposed to be entertaining.
>
> Considering the subject matter he reviews - new gadgets - is it
> surprising that he gets a lot of his information from a company
> pitchmen? The more relevant question is whether he accepts
> everything he is told uncritically. I thinking reading his
> reviews regularly he is pretty quick to point out flaws, where
> something is a great concept but not a great execution.
>
> I think David would agree that his assoication with NYT is
> extremely valuable and adds to his cachet. On the other hand, he
> isn't on staff with the NYT. He's a freelancer. While I can't
> imagine that all freelance writers, especially those that work in
> areas that might be called "infotainment" including all reviews
> of books, television, movies and music, are strictly held to the
> standards the NYT is imposing here, seems like everyone including
> Pogue is trying to find the right compromise and he is getting
> his speaking engagements vetted.
>
> In the case of FCP X, he overstepped (as I believe he admitted)
> by trying to address the issues the pros have with the new
> release. He isn't a Post Pro. He shouldn't have gone there. On
> the other hand his review of the software from the perspective of
> the video hobbyist was pretty much on the mark and despite the
> fact he works in TV some and has seen the inside of an editing
> suite, I think he would characterize his own exploits in editing
> as on that level.
>
> Last but not least I worked with the guy over a period of months.
> He is pretty much as he appears and to the degree he has biases,
> he tends to wear them out in the open.
>
> All this isn't to say the NYT isn't what it once was... but not
> much else is either. Comparatively the real press tragedy is
> what's happening to the Murdoch WSJ.
>
> D.
>
>
>
> On Mon, 01 Aug 2011 21:01 +0000, "wilsonchao"
> <wilsonchao@gmail">wilsonchao@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Remember back in June David Pogue's NYTimes columns about FCPX?
> --- In [1]Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@...>
> wrote:
> Don't waste your time, this guy is clueless to our universe.
>>
>> --- In [2]Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Michael Kedor <mikedor@>
> wrote:
> [3]http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/06/23/professional-video-e
> ditors-weigh-in-on-final-cut-pro-x/
> I just ran into this note that the NYTimes has sanctioned Pogue
> for conflicts of interest, where he's been paid by PR firms while
> he's also presenting himself as an impartial expert:
> [4]http://publiceditor.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/07/06/times-curbs-p
> ogues-pr-appearances/
> Note that Pogue admits "he credits P.R. with providing most of
> his ideas." And Pogue also "displays eight recent New York Times
> columns and identifies five as having come from public relations
> people. Pogue explains that, as a reviewer of new gadgets, there
> is no comprehensive database he can rely on to learn about new
> stuff. Hence he relies on companies and their hired pitchmen to
> tell him about new products."
> How sad, that the NYTimes has fallen so low, that they allow this
> ignorant shill to publish self-serving PR from corporations.
>
>
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com
> 2. mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com
> 3. http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/06/23/professional-video-editors-weigh-in-on-final-cut-pro-x/
> 4. http://publiceditor.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/07/06/times-curbs-pogues-pr-appearances/
> 5. mailto:wilsonchao@gmail.com?subject=Re%3A%20OT%3A%20Pogue%20weighs%20in%20on%20FCPX
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