Tuesday, June 28, 2011

Re: [Avid-L2] Re: The FCPX thread

 

I tell them about the educational pricing, and I ask them how they would
like it if someone stole their work without paying for it ---- but ...
if they're using Avid.... They're all supposed to take an ethics course
at some point.

The one thing I can say with absolute certainty is that NONE of them
know about educational pricing for Avid. They ALL assume it's a $2000
program.

Mark

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On 6/28/11 6:18 PM, Rupert Watson wrote:
>
> Out of interest do you chaps who see students and their cracked
> software; do you pass comment adversely ? Is there a class in which
> they learn about the value of other peoples' IP?
>
> Rupert Watson
>
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> From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>] On
> Behalf Of Mark Myers
> Sent: 28 June 2011 23:15
> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: The FCPX thread
>
> I have seen a lot of cracked versions of Avid for both Mac and PC among
> my students. It is fairly readily available. They generally don't seem
> to know about the educational pricing, and just 'assume' they can't
> afford to buy it, because "FCP is SOoooo much cheaper..."
>
> Mark
>
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> On 6/28/11 6:09 PM, Terence Curren wrote:
> >
> > Very difficult to get cracked copies of Avid, and I don't even know if
> > there ever was a Mac version. FCP on the other hand was always easy.
> > However, in the new app store model, those days may be over.
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > "Rupert Watson" <rupert@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I know this will sound odd, but why weren't they running cracked
> > Avid copies if they loved it that much?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Clearly they should not have been running any, but as far as that
> > sort of thing goes it is an even playing field isn't it?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Rupert Watson
> > >
> > > +44 7787 554 801
> > >
> > > www.root6.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>] On
> > Behalf Of malanhancock
> > > Sent: 28 June 2011 22:46
> > > To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: The FCPX thread
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Institutions pay $295/license but don't get 4 years of free
> > upgrades. Gotta buy a yearly support contract to stay current.
> > >
> > > When I taught at a community college we bought 20 licenses of Media
> > Composer. Whatever reseller my boss bought through got us a discount -
> > maybe 10 or 15% on the bulk purchase? It was cheaper than FCP suites,
> > I remember that.
> > >
> > > That said, all of my students loved Avid by the end of the semester
> > but ran pirated copies of FCP or the Adobe suite and used those at
> > home. Maybe 2 students owned legit copies, but the rest had cracked
> > copies and every plugin in the world (also cracked).
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com> , Steve Hullfish <steve4lists@>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I don't know what the cost is to the INSTITUTIONS though. Colleges
> > don't go out drinking, though college KIDS do.
> > > >
> > > > These institutions are strapped. Even if they have huge
> > endowments, they're still strapped somehow.
> > > >
> > > > I don't know what kind of deals FCP made with these places, but
> > Avid's deal has to be at least as sweet as Apple's.
> > > >
> > > > The educational version of Avid is about the same price as the
> > Full version of FCP X (though I don't think there's any reason that's
> > an apples - to - apples comparison. And FCP X will certainly cost a
> > student more than the original $300 over the course of the next four
> > years.
> > > >
> > > > So, the kid I help mentor bought the ed. version already. He said
> > that the on-line videos weren't much help to him. I've never watched
> > them, so I can't comment. He's pretty bright and talented, so that
> > says something to me.
> > > >
> > > > Winning over the kids is not going to happen unless you can get at
> > the teachers and the institutions themselves, so that's where the
> > effort needs to be placed.
> > > >
> > > > I saw that my post got put on the Avid forums, and the ed.
> > department responded to it, but they responded to it with "business as
> > usual. We already are doing stuff." It's great that there's already
> > stuff in place, but the MARKETING department has to jump on this and
> > collaborate. This is where the whole corporate philosophy of companies
> > sucks, because the education department has their budget and their
> > mission and the marketing boys have theirs and never the two shall
> > meet.... sadly. It's all about who gets what inside a company, not
> > what it does for the overall good.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Steve Hullfish
> > > > contributor: www.provideocoalition.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Jun 28, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Rupert Watson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I think £184 for MC with four years of free upgrades is pretty
> > good. That is £46 a year.
> > > > >
> > > > > All they got to do is not go out drinking a couple of nights a
> > term and they are all set.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > >
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