Steve - I am pondering this very question right now.The university I work at is mostly FCP7 but with 20 Media Composer licences at the moment. I imagine we'll carry on teaching FCP for the coming year because initially it will be in use in facilities - but for how long? I hope we can afford some more Avid licences.
On 28 Jun 2011, at 17:19, Steve Hullfish wrote:
> I helped a local high school kid last night, because he's going to start at Tribeca FIlm School and he figured he needed to learn Avid.
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> He'd been cutting on FCP and had had the ed. version of Avid MC for six months and hadn't made much progress in working with it.
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> I was thinking about the total hell that all film schools and colleges with film and TV programs must be going through right now.
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> You can't possibly teach kids on FCP 7. Not only can't you GET a copy, but what's the use of training on something that's EOL.
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> Even if you had the pathetically misinformed view that FCP X was professional, you need to get an instructor up to speed to teach a completely new software tool over the summer and design a new curriculum around this new software.
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> The only answer is Avid. If someone was INCREDIBLY intelligent at Avid - actually, only semi-intelligent - they would do a Summer 2011 only educational discount on MC5.5 down to $100. To institutions, I'd make it FREE. Why the heck not? You would recapture an entire generation of editors in a single summer! That's got to be worth a fortune. Make it INEVITABLE that institutions teach editing THIS YEAR on Avid. This is a MAJOR opportunity and THIS IS THE WEEK TO DO IT.
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> I think I will take this case directly to the marketing department.
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> Steve Hullfish
> contributor: www.provideocoalition.com
> author: "The Art and Technique of Digital Color Correction"
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> On Jun 28, 2011, at 9:56 AM, Alan Miller wrote:
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>> Here's one I hadn't seen yet. A response to Pogue.
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>> Sticking with the old Final Cut Pro 7 for a few years is not a solution for thousands of us.
>> Apple has every school in an impossible position.
>> We need to train students for professional news and video environments.
>> Thus, thousands of students need to buy Final Cut Pro for all of their classes.
>> Since Final Cut X will not be professional for years, we need to continue to teach them FCP 7. This requires incoming students to purchase Final Cut Pro 7.
>> However, Apple will not sell us Final Cut Pro 7.
>> Now every student is faced with this dilemma: Only the professional version is installed on every machine in the university, yet Final Cut X is installed on her personal machine. This is a crisis because projects are not sharable. There is no way that students can begin a project at home and continue it in the classroom or visa versa.
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>> Incoming students will not be able to buy Final Cut Pro 7 on eBay or Amazon forever.
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>> From: Benjamin Hershleder <Ben@ContactBen.com>
>> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 9:16 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: The FCPX thread
>>
>> Apple begins refunding unhappy Final Cut Pro X customers:
>> http://thenextweb.com/apple/2011/06/28/apple-begins-refunding-unhappy-final-cut-pro-customers/?awesm=tnw.to_19e67
>>
>> Benjamin Hershleder
>> http://ContactBen.com
>> http://Hershleder.com
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>> Wear It In Post!
>> Fun T-shirts, mousepads, mugs & more
>> for Post Production Professionals
>> http://www.WearItInPost.com
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>> On Jun 27, 2011, at 10:01 PM, Benjamin Hershleder wrote:
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>>>
>>> Some more satire on FCPX (fake advert):
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/raberco/5875834724/in/photostream/lightbox/
>>>
>>> Benjamin Hershleder
>>> http://ContactBen.com
>>> http://Hershleder.com
>>>
>>> Wear It In Post!
>>> Fun T-shirts, mousepads, mugs & more
>>> for Post Production Professionals
>>> http://www.WearItInPost.com
>>>
>>> On Jun 27, 2011, at 2:53 PM, John Heiser wrote:
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>>>> Ah yes, I saw that earlier today. Impressive.
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>>>> *john heiser | senior video editor*
>>>> *o2**ideas*
>>>> birmingham, alabama, USA
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>>>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Dylan Reeve <dylan@dylan.wibble.net> wrote:
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>>>>> **
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It got moved to YouTube
>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXepNCs_iZo
>>>>>
>>>>> It's actually a really impressive piece I think - has a strong narrative.
>>>>> Unfortunately it uses a commercial music track, which Vimeo took issue
>>>>> with.
>>>>> Apparently YouTube isn't so fussed about that sort of thing :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dylan Reeve
>>>>> http://dylanreeve.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 9:19 AM, John Heiser <jpheiser@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>>> Deleted.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----
>>>>>> *john heiser | senior video editor*
>>>>>> *o2**ideas*
>>>>>
>>>>>> birmingham, alabama, USA
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>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Perrone Ford <perroneford@yahoo.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
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>>>>>>> **
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>>>>>>> Oh my...
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>>>>>>> http://vimeo.com/25645130
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