Tuesday, June 7, 2011

Re: [Avid-L2] 23.98 to 29.97 workflow question

DOH!

Didn't even notice it could change frame rate in there for me.

Thank you!


Jeff

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Jeff Hedberg


On Jun 6, 2011, at 7:07 PM, Dom Q. Silverio wrote:

> http://tinypic.com/r/6jlenm/7
>
> On 6/6/2011 5:34 PM, Jeff Hedberg wrote:
> > Thanks Dom,
> > Don't have Symphony - so I guess tape to tape it is.
> >
> > I know how to set the anchor point on the D5 - but I'll admit that I don't know how I'd do this on a Digibeta deck. (is this necessary?)
> > I've set the D5's anchor point to be 01:00:00:00
> > I just essentially play back the D5, and crash record on the digi. This looks good - but has given me mixed results with the timecode.
> >
> > I looked around online for some help and came across this post: http://lfhd.net/2008/10/22/timecode-calculator/
> > I downloaded it - and it doesn't seem to convert like I expect at all.
> >
> > I punch in 00:01:30:00 in 29.97DF and then change to 23.98 (drop?!) and get an answer of 00:01:52:12 which really, really confuses me.
> > I can't figure out how I'd use this to get my in and out lining up on the tape at all.
> >
> > Assuming I want the following:
> >
> > IN : 1:00:00:00
> > OUT: 1:01:29:29
> >
> > IN: 1:03:00:00
> > OUT: 1:04:29:29
> >
> > and so on - how would I figure out where those need to fall in 23.98 time code? Seems like this software needs a similar 'anchor point' setting?
> >
> > (maybe I'm missing something obvious)
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > ------------------
> > Jeff Hedberg
> >
> >
> > On Jun 6, 2011, at 1:22 PM, Dom Q. Silverio wrote:
> >
> >> If you don't have Symphony DX with Universal Mastering, option 2 (downcovert
> >> via deck is preferable).
> >>
> >> Make sure you are calculating frames and TC correctly (pulldown, DF vs NDF,
> >> etc).
> >> Second, make sure the deck has the same "anchor point" for the TC
> >> conversion. For example make sure 01:00:00.00 in 23.976p is the same frame
> >> as 01:00:00.00 in your 29.97 conversion.
> >>
> >> Dom Q. Silverio
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Jeff Hedberg<jeff@unioneditorial.com>wrote:
> >>
> >>> I've got a head scratching workflow question.
> >>>
> >>> Footage is coming in via AMA - all shot @ 23.98 HD.
> >>> After rough cutting (DNxHD 36) at 23.98 - I now need to output at 29.97 SD
> >>> master.
> >>> I relink AMA - and now have full resolution in the Avid.
> >>>
> >>> Hardware is Nitros DX.
> >>> I had thought that I'd use the 'downconvert' video output and insert edit
> >>> to digibeta - however MC complains that it can't control a 29.97 deck in a
> >>> 23.98 project.
> >>>
> >>> So I've now started a 29.97 project and opened the sequences in there.
> >>> Before it will output it needs to transcode. I have it do that at 1:1...
> >>> then output.
> >>>
> >>> This is tape 1.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I now output a D5 at 23.98, (from full res AMA files) then play it back and
> >>> record a Digibeta from it.
> >>> This Digibeta is tape 2.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Tape 2's visually quality is a lot higher than Tape 1.
> >>> However, Tape 2 - has timecode issues where I can't get the pieces to
> >>> start/end on the frames they need to.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> What is the recommended workflow for dealing with something like this
> >>> (changing TC rate from 23.98 to 29.97DF, as well as HD to SD)?
> >>>
> >>> I'm not happy with the Avid's transcoding/down-converting quality - but I
> >>> can't seem to wrap my head around how to get my D5 tape set up properly for
> >>> a tape to tape down convert.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for any pointers.
> >>>
> >>> Jeff
> >>>
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