Thursday, June 30, 2011

[Avid-L2] Re: The FCPX thread

 

> > The upcoming 64bit version may not be much beyond a port AT FIRST as there are hints that long standing core issues and criticisms will not be addressed in the initial 6.x.

I forgot to ask -- are those "hints" somewhere documented on the 'net for others to read? I'd be very curious to see that.

While I can readily imagine the effort a 64-bit port requires -- I would be completely and utterly depressed if Avid simply "cloned" all the existing problems and shortcomings -- onto a new software platform.

With the longstanding and assumed excuse that the un-addressed problems and shortcomings were somehow related yo, or delayed by, an eventual migration to 64-bit -- there's going to be an awful lot of unhappy editors -- if they show up next year in v.6.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "blafarm" <blafarm@...> wrote:
>
> That was very well said.
>
>
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, chris magid <chris_rtvf@> wrote:
> >
> > Adobe CS5.5 is a much better choice for folks that love FCP.
> >
> > A critical reason is plug in support and plug in architecture. There are many
> > useful plug-ins which simply cannot be used via AVX. A ton. Most of the Red
> > Giant stuff is FCP and Adobe ONLY. If folks like the plug-ins they have under
> > FCP, they may disappointed with Avid.
> >
> > I sent a lot of emails to plug in developers begging for AVX versions of things
> > like Red Giant Denoiser, which is absolutely stunning. But an AVX version ain't
> > happening.
> >
> > There are also issues with open format support which Avid only tickles through
> > AMA. Same goes for true and versatile 10bit, 4:4:4 or greater video support.
> >
> > Also, CS5.5 is more likely to support their existing video card and other
> > hardware. In addition to the high likely hood that they can get video out from
> > After Effects and Photoshop, much like they could with Motion. Which Avid can't
> > do.
> >
> > Tight integration with After Effects is another plus. It is also complete suite
> > with Photoshop and Encore.
> >
> > Honestly we have to assess peoples needs and workflows in good faith and make
> > sensible recommendations. We shouldn't just be homers for the tools we use.
> >
> > For those users that have criticisms of FCP items which Composer dose well, then
> > Composer may be a good choice.
> >
> > But for those that lament the loss of the FCP they love, then Premiere through
> > CS 5.5 is a better bet.
> >
> > FCPX's perceived failure has not made Composer better. Winning by attrition is
> > not really winning. The goal is to advance the capabilities, quality and
> > usefulness of our tools. Avid still has much work to do and should be very
> > concerned about the first impression they make with any new customers.
> >
> > This isn't some simple contest to see how many folks we can friend on Facebook.
> >
> > Much of the behavior and ballyhooing I've seen online from industry notables
> > bares a striking resemblance to their own criticism of kool-aid drinkers and fan
> > boys of other trendy production products.
> >
> > Personally I think there is a foundation in FCPX which could grow to be
> > something nice.
> >
> > Avid has yet to re-tool composer from the ground up as Apple just did with FCPX.
> > It is something which has been needed for years. The upcoming 64bit version may
> > not be much beyond a port AT FIRST as there are hints that long standing core
> > issues and criticisms will not be addressed in the initial 6.x.
> >
> > C.A.M
> > RTVF
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Terence Curren <tcurren@>
> > To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thu, June 30, 2011 11:50:50 AM
> > Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: The FCPX thread
> >
> >
> > You are talking to the wrong people here. You need to be convincing the FCP
> > users out there. And the former Avid users who went to FCP. That is what Adobe
> > is doing very effectively right this instant.
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Rupert Watson" <rupert@> wrote:
> >
> > <<So far, I have not seen the same level of commitment from Adobe and I have
> > heard NOTHING about their support dept. How does that work? Do they pay for
> > people to take support calls about the software or have they followed the Apple
> > model? >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

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