It looks like you've actually got a pretty good handle on it. The
project we do, a client shoots an address to his clients once a week,
over a greenscreen. We drop in the background, trim the front and end,
and compress. Then we hit a data base with an emailed link to a flash
file on our server. It's a little more reliable than YouTube and
doesn't have any of their ads.
What you're suggesting is pretty much the work flow we use - Old Sony
570WS set to 16x9 (because we had it) via firewire to a Mac Book - or to
the client's Windows 7 laptop. If it's the MacBook, Premier records to
Quicktime, the Windows 7 machine to Avi. You could easily use any of
the file-based cameras, and do the conversion on your end - but the key
to making it look decent of course will be lighting. The Panasonic
should work well, and taking Firewire into Imove eliminates the tape and
the resulting DV file should be cross platform. You can do the same
thing with Windows Movie Maker and Windows XP up to 7 on the client's
existing computer and that eliminates the $1000 expense of purchasing a
new computer.
As I mentioned before - when doing a cheapo production, we literally put
a 24" or 17" monitor on a chair under the camera lens. You can't be
sitting right up against the camera or the eye lines look a little
funky, but with a little practice you can read it pretty well. The key
is the much bigger monitor than you would use with the prompter, because
then you can more easily read the larger type in your peripheral vision.
Our Client then uses "FileZilla" to drag and drop the file up to our web
site, we download and use it. I admit here on the Avid-L that I use
Premier for these jobs because it's faster, and it doesn't care if the
input file is QT or Avi. (We work with a mix of machines, so we're
multi-platform all the way through) And the chroma keyer in Boris is
just amazingly easy to use and very tolerant of poor lighting.
Mark
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On 12/5/10 9:00 PM, Rob C. wrote:
>
> Thanks Mark. Ultimately this is for posting to the web, so the the
> quality needs to look and sound good, but not overproduced. I guess
> since it's for the web, it doesn't need to be HD, but it needs to be
> at least 16:9 to look 'proper' by today's standards.
>
> The type of project this is, would not work with a shooter. I'm
> looking to do something that looks and feels like it has more of a
> personal feel, similar to a person having a conversation via iSight,
> only looking and sounding better. We want to have the personal feel
> of my client talking to 'you', with the information being timely and
> needing to happen every week.
>
> I know there are a lot of choices for cameras under $1000 and I'm
> trying to be budget conscious when putting this together. Since being
> HD for the final project is not an issue, I am looking into the
> possibility of recording directly into iMovie with a small Panasonic
> or Sony camera, thinking he could easily export and upload QT files to
> me, which I could edit and post to YouTube or Vimeo when finished.
>
> I can actually get a pretty good deal on a used Panasonic DVX 100B,
> but being tape based, I think it just complicates the media issue with
> the extra conversion, tape to digital media step. I really want my
> client to be able to record the video/audio and then export a QT that
> he can easily upload to me for editing. Although, now I'm wondering
> if he could record directly into iMovie via Firewire with the DVX...
> hmmm.
>
> The PC vs Mac is only for simplicity on my end - which I believe Macs
> possess for the "less then technically inclined". And, since I will
> be doing the editing and post work on it, I'd like the workflow to be
> simple.
>
> As far as the iPad, there are some prompter rigs that function with
> the iPad and honestly, I haven't done too much research yet but was
> looking at that for the prompter solution
>
> I just did a little project with a Sony DCR-SR65 handicam and
> previously recorded media. I had to import the media into iMovie and
> export it as a QT in order for it to be used in FCP because of the
> Sony codec. (My Avid based G4 computer is dead at the moment and I
> don't have the money to upgrade to the Intel based Avid MC 5... yet.)
> Something like the Sony or a similar Panasonic would probably be fine
> if he could record directly to iMovie or something similar. Then,
> it's just a question of getting it behind an inexpensive prompter glass.
>
> I believe this can be done simply, but may have to go to NY to help
> him work out the bugs and workflow once I commit to the gear.
>
> Thanks again for your input,
> - rob c
>
> On Dec 5, 2010, at 2:31 PM, Mark Myers wrote:
>
> > What kind of quality are you looking for? If you're going HD, I'm
> > assuming you want a nicely lighted talking head, and not a home movie.
> >
> > B&H sells a very nice basic lighting kit - I believe it's the
> > DVProducer, for about $1100-$1500 depending on what you get, but by
> > the
> > time you put a camera, and a decent microphone on here, you're going
> > to
> > be int he $4-$5k range minimum. A little high for the do-it-
> > yourselver.
> >
> > PC vs Mac is meaningless now days. Mac's can read AVI's, and PC's can
> > read Quicktime, and if you go with something like Panasonic's AVCHD,
> > or
> > Sony's XD Cam, they're platform independent. Plug the camera into the
> > computer - whatever computer - and download. If you're not editing,
> > it
> > doesn't even need to be a good computer, almost anything with USB will
> > do. What in the world would the Ipad be for? Unless he already has
> > one or wants an excuse to buy one, why spend that money. Put a 17"
> > computer monitor under the lens on chair, and if you're far enough
> > back
> > there's your prompter. That can definitely run off of whatever old
> > computer is laying around.
> >
> > I have a client for whom I do this on a regular basis. We shoot an
> > old
> > Sony 570, take it live via firewire into Adobe Premier on a 5 yr old
> > Macbook, although a Dell has worked too, (Sorry Avid, it's easier and
> > cheaper) then export a Quicktime for upload and editing. Client
> > downloads the Quicktime and edits the next day. Now, it's not HD, and
> > it's only 2-3 minutes, but the theory should be the same.
> >
> > You're going to drop a fair chunk of change to get this set up
> > correctly
> > with a camera, prompter, etc. Why not get a local freelancer to shoot
> > it? You'd get a better product, from someone who actually knows how
> > to
> > shoot, and you don't have to make the equipment purchase.
> >
> > Mark "Expert on cheap video" Myers
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 12/5/10 2:12 PM, Rob C. wrote:
> >>
> >> I have a client who is looking to do weekly 6-10 minute videos for
> >> his
> >> business (in an office or home office location) and I'm trying to
> >> find
> >> the most efficient way of trying to accomplish this.
> >>
> >> The first issue I have is he is doing this in New York and I am not,
> >> so the ability to drag, drop and upload the videos to me is very
> >> important,
> >> The second is, he's not exactly the most tech-savvy, but he is
> >> trainable and willing to commit.
> >> The third is what I do is totally Mac based and he uses a PC -
> >> although he needs to upgrade and is willing to consider something
> >> like
> >> an Intel G5 iMac.
> >>
> >> Here are is a list of hardware or components I believe we need:
> >>
> >> - HD Camera (with media to be edited in Avid Media Composer 5 or
> >> Final
> >> Cut Studio)
> >> - Lav mic
> >> - Small Tele-prompter
> >> - Computer for the above for prompter and video recording/uploading
> >> to
> >> the web
> >>
> >> - And possibly basic lighting to compensate for bad office lighting
> >> or
> >> being backlit by office/skyline window backlight.
> >>
> >> I'm looking at everything from an iMac G5 with iSight technology and
> >> an external mic (which I think would be slightly problematic because
> >> of things like tele-prompter placement, etc); to a basic HD camera
> >> from Canon or Panasonic (with drag and drop media for uploading to
> >> the
> >> internet), an external prompter and lav mic; to possibly having a set
> >> up with an iPad and appropriate technology for video, audio and
> >> prompter.
> >>
> >> There are many ways to go but reasonably priced and easy to use, good
> >> looking/sounding video & audio technology with drag & drop media; as
> >> well as an easy to use tele- prompter is what I'm looking for.
> >>
> >> Any thoughtful recommendations would be appreciated.
> >>
> >> - rob c
> >>
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