column and creating the EDL solved the problem I was having with 24tc
not being correct. Hope this helps someone else in the future!
gh
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Greg Huson
Secret Headquarters, Inc
Post Production / Production
Culver City, CA
323 677 2092
323 677 2096 F
www.DigitalServiceStation.com
greg (at) SecretHQ.com
www.SecretHQ.com
On Jun 19, 2010, at 8:55 AM, Greg Huson wrote:
> Did that, exactly as youve detailed- that's the way I've always done
> it in the past. The new sequence didn't match the roughcut. Not even
> close.
>
> I'll try it again today, and just go a little slower! This was all
> on a 5x system, but I have one system still running 3.x, so I'll try
> it there, too, as MP suggests.
>
> Thanks Terry, John, and Michael for the help.
>
> Greg (at) secrethq.com
> Greg Huson
> Secret Headquarters, Inc
> www.DigitalServiceStation.com
> www.SecretHQ.com
> iPhone
>
> On Jun 19, 2010, at 6:54 AM, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > The EDL method still works as I did it recently. In a matchback
> > enabled 30 frame project, open you bin with the sequence in it. Turn
> > on sources and show reference clips in bin display.
> >
> > Now select the start TC column in the bin and hit CTRL + D (CMD + D
> > Mac) and select 24 TC as the place to copy to. This gives all your
> > clip a 24 frame TC.
> >
> > Now open EDL manager, select 24TC as the TC for both sources and
> > timeline. Now open the bin with your sequence in it and load the edl
> > from your sequence. This gives you an EDL with 24 frame TC.
> >
> > Now is a tricky step, you have to save that EDL to disk, then reload
> > it in EDL manager to create a sequence. So...
> >
> > Save the EDL to disk. Open it in EDL manager. In MC, open your 23.98
> > project and have a destination bin open. Back in EDL manager, do a
> > "Create Composer Sequence" and it will ask you a few dialogues about
> > the type of sequence to make, then it will offer the destination
> > folder you have opened in MC. Then it creates a sequence in that bin
> > in MC.
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Greg Huson <Greg@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Interesting. I couldn't go that route because I don't have
> original
> > > offline media-it's a match-back kind of deal. Did 'turbo trace' by
> > > hand, essentially. I spent a couple hours trying to use the edl
> > > method, which used to be straight forward, but that didn't work
> > > correctly, either.
> > >
> > > I'll figure it out tomorrow. If mr Phillips happens to be reading
> > > tonight- anything new since what's publised on 24p.com?
> > >
> > > Incidentally, if you reformat the 2997 sequence to 2398, THEN make
> > > your edl, all the sources end up with speed changes in them, and
> the
> > > wrong outpoint. Wheee! It's been a while since I needed to do
> this,
> > > so I'm sure there's a simple step I've skipped. I hope.
> > >
> > > Greg (at) secrethq.com
> > > Greg Huson
> > > Secret Headquarters, Inc
> > > www.DigitalServiceStation.com
> > > www.SecretHQ.com
> > > iPhone
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jun 19, 2010, at 12:06 AM, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@...>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Okay more has been revealed. I hooked up a camera so I could
> drag
> > > > clips into the capture tool. Doing this it appears the start
> > column
> > > > is the one that ends up used for capture so in this case it is
> 30
> > > > frame code and therefore doesn't seem like it would work for
> going
> > > > back to 23.98 original sources. Back to try a few more things.
> > > >
> > > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Playing around a little more I find I get an invalid trim
> error
> > > > when I duplicate the start time code to the TC 24 column. Even
> > > > though the error happens it still copies the time code but for
> no
> > > > apparent reason many of the clips don't end up with TC 24
> > values. I
> > > > can't see a pattern to the missing values, sometimes it's
> right in
> > > > the middle of a captured interview tape. Taking the sequence at
> > this
> > > > point and decomposing it all the subsequent clips have values in
> > the
> > > > TC 24 but again the start time code is 30 frame code. So the
> > > > question still remains what will the avid use for batch capture?
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I decided to play with this with an SD 30 show I offlined. I
> > > > first started in the 30I project and modified the seq to 23.98
> > which
> > > > created a few mixdowns for matte keys. I then made a 23.98
> project
> > > > and started a new sequence and cut the modified sequence into
> > it. I
> > > > then transcoded the sequence to 23.98. There is a warning
> > "Transcode
> > > > creates new clips that match the current project rate. Because
> the
> > > > new edit does not match the original clip, you cannot batch
> > capture,
> > > > batch import, relink or link (via AMA) to these new clips." I
> then
> > > > decomposed the sequence and ended up with offline clips that say
> > > > they are format 23.98 but the timecode in the start column is
> > still
> > > > 30frame. I can duplicate that into a TC 24 column but I'm not
> sure
> > > > what time code would be used in a batch capture. I don't have a
> > deck
> > > > to try and load one of the clips into the capture tool to see if
> > it
> > > > will get the 24 or 30 code for batch capture. It seems like
> > there is
> > > > still a need to somehow get the 24 frame code into the Start
> > column
> > > > so you could capture from the original 23.98 master tapes. My
> > > > understanding is in a traditional 23.98 NTSC offline to HD
> online
> > > > the process of modifying the offline sequence to HD 23.98
> > > > automatically changes the source codes to 24frame code not the
> 30
> > > > frame captured in offline. Perhaps Mr. Philips could shed some
> > light
> > > > on this.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ready for fun???
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You can open your 29.97 sequence in a 23.98 project and
> Avid
> > > > converts everything. But....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It keeps the sources as 29.97 with the motion effect
> applied
> > > > to make them 23.98.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So, you now have two possible workarounds.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1: is to use a combination of the Avid conversion method
> and
> > > > EDL. In other words, do the EDL method and cut it over your
> > > > converted sequence on a higher track. Then you can lift effects
> > from
> > > > the converted sequence up to the EDL created shots. When done,
> > > > decompose and capture.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2: And I haven't tried this yet but it should work.
> > Transcode
> > > > your converted 23.98 timeline to changing the frame rate to
> 23.98.
> > > > Delete all that media, decompose and capture.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Greg Huson <Greg@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm conforming a feature that was done all 29.97 - but
> the
> > > > original is
> > > > > > > > 23.98. I haven't had this combo recently - in the past,
> > the
> > > > method
> > > > > > > > was to create a 23.98 edl from the 24p column.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Is there a newer, better, more efficient, not-involving
> > and
> > > > EDL
> > > > > > > > method? Offline source was 23.98, captured as 29.97.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Anything better than the EDL method? I'm poking around
> the
> > > > internet
> > > > > > > > and help files, but the 'L' is often faster!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > gh
> > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > Greg Huson
> > > > > > > > Secret Headquarters, Inc
> > > > > > > > Post Production / Production
> > > > > > > > Culver City, CA
> > > > > > > > 323 677 2092
> > > > > > > > 323 677 2096 F
> > > > > > > > www.DigitalServiceStation.com
> > > > > > > > greg (at) SecretHQ.com
> > > > > > > > www.SecretHQ.com
> > > > > > > >
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